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15 years ago

Head Coach Mike McCarthy has preached that the Green Bay Packers' identity needs to start with defense for the team to be successful.

So it's no surprise then that during the team's current three-game winning streak the defense has continued to climb in the league rankings, all the way to No. 1 as of Monday.

That's right, No. 1. The Packers rank first in the league in yards allowed per contest, surrendering just 281.5 on average. The last time the Packers ranked No. 1 in the league in total defense was following Week 3 of the 2001 season. The last time the team held the top spot this late in the season was at the end of 1996, a Super Bowl championship year.

No one is making any such bold predictions with five games remaining in 2009 and a wild-card playoff fight on Green Bay's hands the rest of the way. But if the defense continues to play at this level through December, the Packers like their chances of possibly making some noise.

"Being No. 1 in Week 12, 13, 14, really doesn't give you any merit," McCarthy said. "You want to be No. 1 at the end of the season. But I think our defense definitely is on the right pace to be the championship defense that we anticipate we'd have here."

It's been a gradual climb, beginning with the transition to the 3-4 scheme under defensive coordinator Dom Capers.

Packers.com wrote:



Read the rest of the article here .

Damn, thank you Dom for bringing this defense a hell of a long way.
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beast
15 years ago
Honestly I hate how the NFL does somethings... this is one of them... why do we rate teams by yards? Points are what matter...

The Packers are #1 in yards but #12 in points... which would you rather be #1 in? ... I'd rather be #1 in stopping the other team from scoring...
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I like the idea behind the Aikman Efficiency Ratings better myself. I think more than one aspect should be considered.
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RaiderPride
15 years ago

Honestly I hate how the NFL does somethings... this is one of them... why do we rate teams by yards? Points are what matter...

The Packers are #1 in yards but #12 in points... which would you rather be #1 in? ... I'd rather be #1 in stopping the other team from scoring...

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I agree...

Here is one way to become # 1 in yards allowed. Have shitty special team kick coverage, and give the opposition short fields all year long.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

Honestly I hate how the NFL does somethings... this is one of them... why do we rate teams by yards? Points are what matter...

The Packers are #1 in yards but #12 in points... which would you rather be #1 in? ... I'd rather be #1 in stopping the other team from scoring...

"RaiderPride" wrote:



I agree...

Here is one way to become # 1 in yards allowed. Have shitty special team kick coverage, and give the opposition short fields all year long.

"beast" wrote:



Thus is why we're #1 in yards allowed, but #12 in points allowed. The latter matters. The former doesn't.
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beast
15 years ago

I like the idea behind the Aikman Efficiency Ratings better myself. I think more than one aspect should be considered.

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I agree more than one aspect should be but they're over simplifying like they usually do... if their gonna do that I think the points should be the leading one if your only gonna do one....

Did Aikman say which which aspect he thought should be considered? Ether way I think points should be the leading or tied as the leading state when considering them...

Also for the record I think Dom has done a very good job (for the most part) I'm not saying anything bad about him... just the way the NFL over simplify things and which stats they pick to judge who's the best stat wise...
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AJistheHawk50
15 years ago
i like this i think our defense is almost this good or around here. the points thing can be put on about how terrible our kick coverages are and special teams deficiencies.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago
Yup, the STs aspect was discussed in the "A Little Perspective on Defense" thread.

Can we merge those 2 threads? I think we're going to have a lot of redundant discussions if we don't.
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15 years ago
It's a start ... 😉
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Packers_Finland
15 years ago
The ranking should be based on both. I think we have a top 10 defense.
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