millertime
14 years ago
We are a good team right now. We have a great offense, a good defense, and a great blend of old vets and young guys. We have no major locker room problems. Even the o-line is starting to gel. We are currently in great position to make a playoff push.

Overall, it is a good time to be a Packer fan.

But after watching the return our team gave up after the safety today, I am fed up.

Our special teams is horrendous. They are absolutely atrocious.

The coverage units are a joke. I think Crosby has got to be one of our leading tacklers (where did his leg strength go by the way). We had, what three or four penalties on special teams today.

We rank 22nd on kick returns. We're 23 on punt returns. Our longest return (46 yards) is tied for 25 and is the only return we have had over 40 yards. No TDs on returns. Kapinos is dead last in net punting.

I love the kid, but Nelson doesn't know what he's doing on punt returns. I've seen him muff, fumble, and make ill-advised fair catches all year. there got to be someone our their we can trust as punt returner besides Woodson.

The absolutely worst aspect is our coverage. Quinn Johnson has no idea what going on. How many more missed blocks and coverage penalties will it take before McCarthy realizes he needs to be on the practice squad for a year. No one is going to pick him up right now. I swear that Underwood and Bush lead the league in penalties/minute played. We got burned by the Bucs, Vikes, Lions, 49ers... hell everyone! After every touchdown we score, we give up huge returns put our defense in a horrible position. I can't find the stats so feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I have to assume that we are the worst coverage team in the league.

In order for good teams like GB to beat great teams like New Orleans and Minnesota we have play stellar special teams. I have no idea how to turn this thing around...

What do you guys think?
RaiderPride
14 years ago
I am savouring the win.

I am NOT going to let any thing negative creep into my mind for the next 144 hours.
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dhazer
14 years ago

We are a good team right now. We have a great offense, a good defense, and a great blend of old vets and young guys. We have no major locker room problems. Even the o-line is starting to gel. We are currently in great position to make a playoff push.

Overall, it is a good time to be a Packer fan.

But after watching the return our team gave up after the safety today, I am fed up.

Our special teams is horrendous. They are absolutely atrocious.

The coverage units are a joke. I think Crosby has got to be one of our leading tacklers (where did his leg strength go by the way). We had, what three or four penalties on special teams today.

We rank 22nd on kick returns. We're 23 on punt returns. Our longest return (46 yards) is tied for 25 and is the only return we have had over 40 yards. No TDs on returns. Kapinos is dead last in net punting.

I love the kid, but Nelson doesn't know what he's doing on punt returns. I've seen him muff, fumble, and make ill-advised fair catches all year. there got to be someone our their we can trust as punt returner besides Woodson.

The absolutely worst aspect is our coverage. Quinn Johnson has no idea what going on. How many more missed blocks and coverage penalties will it take before McCarthy realizes he needs to be on the practice squad for a year. No one is going to pick him up right now. I swear that Underwood and Bush lead the league in penalties/minute played. We got burned by the Bucs, Vikes, Lions, 49ers... hell everyone! After every touchdown we score, we give up huge returns put our defense in a horrible position. I can't find the stats so feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I have to assume that we are the worst coverage team in the league.

In order for good teams like GB to beat great teams like New Orleans and Minnesota we have play stellar special teams. I have no idea how to turn this thing around...

What do you guys think?

"millertime" wrote:




could be worse look at the Steelers they have given up a td on returns in 8 straight games.
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago
To be honest, the STs performance this year is bad enough to warrant Coach Slocum getting fired.

Forget the big plays at seemingly the worst possible time, the penalties are absolutely ridiculous now. They needed to stop 10 games ago.

I really doubt Mike McCarthy would fire someone like Slocum after the year seeing as he is just a first year coach, but I hope Mike McCarthy gets him some veteran help there, maybe in the form of an adviser like Mike Westoff...


I'm hoping we can limit the big returns - I've pretty much given up on improving the penalties. On the bright side, Kapinos was a positive today, IMO.
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djcubez
14 years ago

We are a good team right now. We have a great offense, a good defense, and a great blend of old vets and young guys. We have no major locker room problems. Even the o-line is starting to gel. We are currently in great position to make a playoff push.

Overall, it is a good time to be a Packer fan.

But after watching the return our team gave up after the safety today, I am fed up.

Our special teams is horrendous. They are absolutely atrocious.

The coverage units are a joke. I think Crosby has got to be one of our leading tacklers (where did his leg strength go by the way). We had, what three or four penalties on special teams today.

We rank 22nd on kick returns. We're 23 on punt returns. Our longest return (46 yards) is tied for 25 and is the only return we have had over 40 yards. No TDs on returns. Kapinos is dead last in net punting.

I love the kid, but Nelson doesn't know what he's doing on punt returns. I've seen him muff, fumble, and make ill-advised fair catches all year. there got to be someone our their we can trust as punt returner besides Woodson.

The absolutely worst aspect is our coverage. Quinn Johnson has no idea what going on. How many more missed blocks and coverage penalties will it take before McCarthy realizes he needs to be on the practice squad for a year. No one is going to pick him up right now. I swear that Underwood and Bush lead the league in penalties/minute played. We got burned by the Bucs, Vikes, Lions, 49ers... hell everyone! After every touchdown we score, we give up huge returns put our defense in a horrible position. I can't find the stats so feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I have to assume that we are the worst coverage team in the league.

In order for good teams like GB to beat great teams like New Orleans and Minnesota we have play stellar special teams. I have no idea how to turn this thing around...

What do you guys think?

"millertime" wrote:


I agree with most of what you say but Quinn Johnson on the practice squad? He would get picked up in a heartbeat. The guy is an absolute mammoth of a lead blocker in the run game.
all_about_da_packers
14 years ago

I agree with most of what you say but Quinn Johnson on the practice squad? He would get picked up in a heartbeat. The guy is an absolute mammoth of a lead blocker in the run game.

"djcubez" wrote:



I agree he would get picked up instantly; someone would definitely cut a bottom of the roster play and easily pick up Quinn in a heartbeat.


That said, my goodness is he slow. If I'm not mistaken, he was the one responsible on Grant giving up a safety because he didn't get out to block a player fast enough.
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beast
14 years ago

I agree with most of what you say but Quinn Johnson on the practice squad? He would get picked up in a heartbeat. The guy is an absolute mammoth of a lead blocker in the run game.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I agree he would get picked up instantly; someone would definitely cut a bottom of the roster play and easily pick up Quinn in a heartbeat.


That said, my goodness is he slow. If I'm not mistaken, he was the one responsible on Grant giving up a safety because he didn't get out to block a player fast enough.

"djcubez" wrote:



Quinn is a power guy... not a speed guy. And I agree keep him on the 53 man roster....

Also as far as Underwood I swear he got called penalty today where it was clearly was him... like his number got called but it wasn't him... Ref got the wrong number... right call though just wrong number...
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djcubez
14 years ago

I agree with most of what you say but Quinn Johnson on the practice squad? He would get picked up in a heartbeat. The guy is an absolute mammoth of a lead blocker in the run game.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I agree he would get picked up instantly; someone would definitely cut a bottom of the roster play and easily pick up Quinn in a heartbeat.


That said, my goodness is he slow. If I'm not mistaken, he was the one responsible on Grant giving up a safety because he didn't get out to block a player fast enough.

"djcubez" wrote:


Not to derail this thread but I think the safety was more on the call. Grant has a history of losing yards on outside runs. Couple that call with the fact that we were on the 1 yard line and I see a 50-50 chance of a safety. I would've much rather seen an FB dive or even a QB sneak to at least get us a few more yards out of the end zone.
djcubez
14 years ago

I agree with most of what you say but Quinn Johnson on the practice squad? He would get picked up in a heartbeat. The guy is an absolute mammoth of a lead blocker in the run game.

"beast" wrote:



I agree he would get picked up instantly; someone would definitely cut a bottom of the roster play and easily pick up Quinn in a heartbeat.


That said, my goodness is he slow. If I'm not mistaken, he was the one responsible on Grant giving up a safety because he didn't get out to block a player fast enough.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



Quinn is a power guy... not a speed guy. And I agree keep him on the 53 man roster....

Also as far as Underwood I swear he got called penalty today where it was clearly was him... like his number got called but it wasn't him... Ref got the wrong number... right call though just wrong number...

"djcubez" wrote:



Yea Bigby had a blatant block in the back on a punt return but they called it on Underwood.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
I wonder if the special teams scheme/plan is a factor into the flags being called? Maybe the scheme isn't putting players in a advantageous position and they end up reacting out of position foolishly which causes flags?
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