And exactly what will we do with 25 7th round draft choices?

"dfosterf" wrote:

warhawk -

My friend, this is professional football. Yes, they need to go balls out from day 1. If not, then when? Game 9, game 12? When? OTAs, mini-camps & the preseason is for getting better. You don't have the amount of practice time during the season and you focus more on game planning. That's a myth about football, a team doesn't get better during the year. It is what it is and they have to figure out a way to wins.

Aaron Rodgers wasn't given a pass for taking over a team that was in the Championship Game the prior year when he went 6-10. Ray Rhodes 8-8. This team is 4-4 and I started by discussing the 3-4 defense, not special teams or the offensive line. I didn't say the defense is THE REASON for such a poor season.

My question and opinions were only directed at the 3-4... please stop making excuses for field position/special teams. What Championship level franchise complains that their highest paid unit cannot stop offenses because of field position? They probably would have won 2 more games if they did hold teams to FGs. And please explain the Tampa Bay loss? That was special teams? A Rookie QB with 3 TDs vs. 1 interception for a previously winless Bucs team?

Damn, I have to stop taking months off before posting because I feel like I have to respond to everything... this ish is addictive.

"warhawk" wrote:

The Packers defense gave up a single good drive by the Bucs all day.


Ten times the Bucs started insider their 30. The results? Seven punts, one FG, one missed FG, and one TD that should have resulted in an INT by Hawk.

We should have won that game by 30 and it damn sure wasn't the defenses fault.

"warhawk" wrote:

This has been discussed at length here and on other sites I'm sure. So my thoughts may not come across as original to many of you. I guess In some regards, I'll be validating some of your opinions/comments. Just felt like saying something at the half-way point of the season. Haven't chatted with anyone since the preseason... how are you cheeseheads doing?

[1] The 3-4 talent doesn't exist on this team... that will take time to get done, but will the franchise commit to this scheme longterm? Will they hire a coach with a different scheme or one that has the background? Capers may be your head coach next year if that is the case and he will require decision making authority on personnel.
[2] The defense has a lot of starters (and contributors) who aren't that smart. The scheme is technical and includes a lot of nuance to be played at the highest of levels. Aside from Woodson, what defensive player(s) is a consistent playmaker with football instincts of other great players in the league (Harrison, T. Palo, Lewis, E. Reed, etc.).
[3] Woodson is a great football player, not a great leader of men... when your best player doesn't practice or set a tone (see R. Lewis, T. Brady, A. Peterson) the team won't max out.
[4] The Packers need some SOBs on their team. This team is too nice on and off the field... too many guys on Twitter, Facebook & MySpace... players are more concerned about the music business, endorsements, celebrity. This team is distracted by key players more concerned about what being a Packers player can do for them rather than what they can give to the legacy of this franchise.

I'm really looking forward to see how they compete with the Cowboys on Sunday... after the game I'll spend time with some of your fave heroes.

"55sandman" wrote:

I also think Al Harris and every one of our safeties, including Nick Collins (especially--athleticism aside) are absolutely dumber than dirt. I think they are too friggin' stupid to play anything resembling a sophisticated defense.

As soon as there is a requirement to "pick up" for a fellow defender, watch for the big play...a missed assignment is almost a virtual certainty.

Then I get to hear how Fred Flintstone has to see the film.

"dfosterf" wrote:

I'd give you ten applaud points for this, but they won't let me. Players' intelligence is never discussed but it is an important aspect of the game.

"dfosterf" wrote:

...Ha! And I was gonna give you a plus one for the Collins over rated thingy after some got hyper about it.

lol

"dfosterf" wrote: