musccy
15 years ago
OK Zero...you and porky are rational too 🙂

But seriously...this team will be decent (and likely not much more) this year, but I like our future.

Grant has to go, that piece of $hit could fall over from his own fart, but luckily that's one of the easiest positions to replace via the draft.
Again, 1-2 tackles, maybe move Lang inside, and get back ups for 3 vets nearing the end of their career (woody, harris, driver) and we're fine for the next 5 years!
bigfog
15 years ago
The foundation for a great team has been poured. Look at the talent - Rodgers, Jennings, Finley, Quinn Johnson, James Jones, Jordy...etc. But I'm now convinced that McCarthy and Thompson are not the ones that are going to be able to finish building the house.

Goofy metaphor, but that's how I feel. The same problems keep being repeated over and over and that's a coaching issue. The lack of talent along hte offensive line was evident, and that's on Thompson.

Hopefully, a veteran coach will see that the cupboard is far from bare, and will be happy to jump to Green Bay.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
I think Ted can and will get the correct Olineman here, where the future coach asks for something different.

My question is does Ted have the balls to cut McCarthy lose?
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

I think Ted can and will get the correct Olineman here, where the future coach asks for something different.

My question is does Ted have the balls to cut McCarthy lose?

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



I agree. I think Ted could find power o scheme type lineman. Rather, I hope he can.

And I think he can cut mm lose. Not right this minute. This off season I think it'll need to be done.

UNLESS. There's a drastic improvement. And I just don't see that happening.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I think Ted Thompson has the balls to cut Mike McCarthy loose. That's not my concern. My concern is can he bring in a coach that will inspire our better free agents to re-sign with the team? Players like Charles Woodson (yes, yes, I know he's under contract for a few more years) have stated in no uncertain terms that they want to win a Super Bowl. If they start to get the feeling that this administration won't get it done, will we start to see an exodus out of Green Bay? Are the continual irrational fuckups we see purely the result of poor coaching, or are they a form of rebellion, greasing the way under the head coach? If McCarthy really is starting to lose the team, as some speculate, Ted Thompson needs to take action before we lose the roster too.
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bigfog
15 years ago

I think Ted can and will get the correct Olineman here, where the future coach asks for something different.

My question is does Ted have the balls to cut McCarthy lose?

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Ted also needs the stones to change his philosophy. This idea of not using free agency, while a noble idea, doesn't work in today's NFL. When everyone else is doing something and you're not - you're losing in this "copy-cat" league.
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dfosterf
15 years ago
I don't think anyone is going anywhere head coach or GM-wise.

I called it "whack-a-mole" last year.

The carnival game.

We had to fix the defense.

Personnel-wise, this past off-season...along with the scheme.

You can't have everything at once via the draft.

All the impact o-linemen were gone by the time we were in a position to draft one.

Fuckin' bustin' caused some of this, btw.

Thing is, if you KNOW you don't have the physical specimens to match up one on one, what do you do?

You "whack-a-mole" your strategies.

Ahman can block. He is awesome in the flat. Tausch HAS played TE (One of my ..perhaps whack, perhaps unorthodox, perhaps brilliant)"whack-a-mole" solutions.

You protect your quarterback. You dump off. You do a lot of things.

How 'bout the contrast between having Percy return kicks and Ahman.

Ahman ran right at the pile, almost looked like on purpose, like he was told to. That was great. Nice job Tramon.

Grant ---

I don't like Grant. Not in this scheme I don't. Jackson either.

If we get a more physical line that can make a hole, I'd revisit that.
Pack93z
15 years ago
State of the franchise is simple.. we are a solid ball club overall with one glaring issue away from being a true contender.

We will continue to be a tease and a pretender until we can address this offensive line.

We missed a prime opportunity last offseason in the house cleaning to pitch Campen and Fonteno.. one can go back to the 07 season and watch the interior line play and see communication and scheme flaws.. fast forward to his season.. same flaws. One can point only one direction on that.. coaching.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
The administration of this team will rise in my estimation when a) Brandon Jackson is gone; b) Chad Clifton is gone; c) Mark Tauscher is gone; d) Atari Bigby is gone; e) suitable replacements for a) through d) have been brought in; and f) some high-quality talent is brought in to light a fire under Ryan Grant's ass. I'm not calling for Grant to be cut quite yet, but ever since his shenanigans of last year -- opportunistically exploiting the Favre fiasco -- I've wanted him on a tight leash, and I hope it's getting tighter.
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Pack93z
15 years ago

The administration of this team will rise in my estimation when a) Brandon Jackson is gone; b) Chad Clifton is gone; c) Mark Tauscher is gone; d) Atari Bigby is gone; e) suitable replacements for a) through d) have been brought in; and f) some high-quality talent is brought in to light a fire under Ryan Grant's ass. I'm not calling for Grant to be cut quite yet, but ever since his shenanigans of last year -- opportunistically exploiting the Favre fiasco -- I've wanted him on a tight leash, and I hope it's getting tighter.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Was Tauscher on the field yesterday? Hmmmm didn't think so.

Any way.. point E) is really the meat of your rant. Clifton and Mark have seen there better days, that much was clear a season ago, but this regime "failed" in getting suitable replacements in line for the last 5 years.

Ted properly talked about getting the next generation of QB in line years ago, but has failed in that same aspect along the offensive line.

Simply put.. it hasn't been addressed, and that is really my only beef with Ted. He has had ample time to have the next generation of tackles in place.. so either he or the coaching staff has failed in properly getting the situation corrected. I lean heavily on coaching along the offensive line.

And little of that blame can fall upon Mark or Chad.
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beast (15h) : Yeah, but also some of the wording suggestions Jax only pranked called the QB, not the others... and if he had an open spreadsheet & 3 calls
beast (15h) : Thank goodness he's not leaving the Turtle in the Red Tide
Mucky Tundra (15h) : Cowboys 1st round pick Tyler Booker will indeed be bringing his pet turtle to Dallas with him
Mucky Tundra (16h) : that contained all prospects info and contact
Mucky Tundra (16h) : beast, according the Falcons statement Jax came across it on an ipad. If I had to guess, probably an open spread sheet or something
Zero2Cool (16h) : Simmons put up an emoji with cheese.
beast (16h) : Not sure anyone is interested in Isaiah Simmons... Collin Oliver might of taken his potential slot
beast (16h) : I'm going with Jax Ulbrich is not telling the whole truth... he accidentally came across it? Why would a defensive coordinator have a QB #?
Zero2Cool (17h) : He's not that great, but final piece of the script.\
Zero2Cool (17h) : If we add Isaiah Simmons, book your Super Bowl tickets
Mucky Tundra (17h) : Colts 1st round TE Tyler Warren also got prank called, was that Jax Ulbrich as well?
Zero2Cool (17h) : Jax Ulbrich, Jeff Ulbrich’s son, released an apology for his role in the Shedeur Sanders prank call.
Martha Careful (17h) : apparently he did not participate in practice or play on the east west shrine game nor the NFL combine. The kid was a mediocre spoiled brat
Mucky Tundra (18h) : Yeah that one that was a super wounded duck that Sanders supporters are highlighting to prove a point
Zero2Cool (18h) : Shough is the guy who missed guys at combine isn't he?
beast (18h) : It's not official until I'm dead! I have a chance still! (Not really)
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : I could feel my body decomposing in real time when I read that
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : @MIKEYSAINRISTIL Tyler Shough will officially be the last person drafted to the NFL born in the 1900’s
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : saw the tweet, he meant the city
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : Was that for the team or the city?
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 3m Draft grade is in: Green Bay gets an A. The people, the city, the venue were all superb. NFL Draft’s next
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matt LaFleur says Jaire Alexander is participating in #Packers offseason program, which has been conducted virtually during this first week
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : ✅ ...
buckeyepackfan (26-Apr) : Check
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matthew Golden cahanged 81 to 22??
TheKanataThrilla (26-Apr) : Sam Howell to Vikings...guess no Aaron
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : 1 round 7 min, with one extra minute if there is a trade. 2nd round 4 minutes, 3rd -3, 2 thereafter IMO
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Agree
dfosterf (26-Apr) : Great idea imo
dfosterf (26-Apr) : 1st round to 7 minutes with one extension
dfosterf (26-Apr) : NFL comissioner wants to shorten the 2st
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : @jalenreagors They’re discussing if Sheduer can go back to college on NFL Network LMFAOOOOO
beast (26-Apr) : Great point Martha
beast (26-Apr) : Buddy Ryan used to say if a candy bar goes missing, there are two to blame, Rex and Rob 🤪 jk 😁
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Bum Phillips used to say there are two ways to get better. Get better players or get players to play better. We have a new DL coach
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Yes. Look at the losses last year. They can win.
beast (26-Apr) : Can Packers win with their current DL?
bboystyle (26-Apr) : waiting for a pass rusher.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes between picks in the 3rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 3rd. Hate this phone
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 4rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes in the 4
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 7 minutes between picks in the 2nd round
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : Sorry to bitch, but the headline writers in that section absolutely mislead, or don't know how to read. It is maddening
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : No thanks. Not a dependable guy to be in the right place and run the right route. Dumb as a box of rocks.
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : Losing 2nd round pick for a one year rental, not ideal. Especially a headcase.
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Pickens for Jaire may be interesting. Definitely not sure we want Pickens long term.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : No.Absolutely not
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : NO NO NO NO NO NO!!1 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
dhazer (25-Apr) : scenario: Our main prospects are off the board when our pick comes around, do we just throw a 2nd round pick at Pittsburgh for Pickens
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