I agree with this 100%

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The same gameplan is playing two much nickle coverage. Two Dline man rushing with 2 lbers. We needed to have the extra big body inside.

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Last time the emphasis was on stopping Peterson.

Clearly the Nickel package was geared towards countering the Vikings pass offense.

Big Okie is different from the Nickle.

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Our down front has been 2 Dlineman for probably 60%+ of the snaps. Be that 5 DBs or 5 Lbers. IMO that is why we are not getting pressure on the QB. How much have we heard Dline is to take up blocks so the LBers can make plays. Well we only have 2 Dlineman in the game, so that is 1 or 2 blockers they cannot tie up.

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I'm pretty much in agreement with you Porky, but here's my thoughts for the game.

- Minnesota is a damn good football team. You can't deny it. Favre is playing not just good football but motivated football--you can tell he really wants to win every game.
- The Packers are exactly what they've been every year under McCarthy and Ted Thompson. They are a young football team with loads of potential but they can never put together the things that make a potentially good football team great. We are an average team now.
- We couldn't have been happier to have Rodgers as a replacement for Favre. Sure, there's a lot of debate about who is better or if the Packers made the right decision but in the end we are lucky to have a guy like Rodgers at the QB position.
- Ryan Grant is not an NFL caliber running back. I'm sick of watching him play, he makes me want to vomit. Say all you want about him not getting carries but I saw him fall in the backfield twice without anyone touching him today. This guy needs to get the hell out of Green Bay because he only holds our run game back. We need a playmaker out of the backfield, we can't get by with a guy whose only strength is running straight anymore.
- The Packers coaching staff needs to learn how to adjust quicker to what's going on on the field. We can't let good teams keep taking the lead on us it only leads to disaster. They also need to make better decisions with playcalling. I'm sick of 2nd-and-18 run plays. Also, why didn't we run any screens against the Vikings? I was looking for them all game. I also think we should have gone for it on fourth instead of kicking a field goal (which Crosby missed). I also questioned the two-point conversion.
- The defense is much improved from last year but lacks consistency. We also need to get pressure on the QB. It doesn't matter how many people we have covering the opposing quarterback has all day to throw the ball.
- Missed opportunities and penalties are killing this team. We got handed the ball in Minnesota territory with a chance to take the lead early. We got out of there with a field goal. Johnny Jolly's penalty was terrible, no matter what the Vikings player may have said to him you can't do that, plain and simple. The players need to be held accountable for penalties whether it's laps or fines, you can't be making stupid mistakes if you want to be a good football team.
- Percy Harvin was a huge difference in the game. Our defense was getting good stops whenever the Vikings had to actually move the ball down the field, but a lot of the time they got the ball at their own 40 or better. You can't win if the team has a short field to work with every drive.
- I think the Vikings have our number. I think that they're not only a better team but they know our weaknesses better than any other opponent. Favre being their quarterback also gives them a lot of extra help in the intel and strategy departments.
- Overall I think we lack aggressiveness. If this team came out pumped at the start of the game ready to smash throats and exert their authority we'd be better off. It seems that we always start the game conservatively from both a play-calling and defensive angle. It's almost as if instead of playing to win we play not to lose. Why can't we just start passing of the bat and use that to set up the draw and running game? It's obvious that passing the football is our strength, so we should utilize that more and earlier.

In the end it was a heartbreaker of a loss that I hope the Packers don't forget about. They should use it as motivation in weeks to come and try to play with an attitude.

We didn't and do not win the majority of matchups due to a lack of talent not the gameplan, which is sometimes screwy as well.

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At some point though, you have to expect your LBs can win their one-on-one matchups.

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I just don't understand the talent argument though. I think we have more then enough talent to have a top 10 + defense. Of course we have a few weak spots, but what D doesn't? Just look at Denver and the Saints. You can't tell me we don't at least have as much talent on D as those teams, if not more. Then how come they are having so much success and we are not? How about the Titans D this year? Surely Haynesworth wasn't responsible for their entire D collapsing this year?

It has to be coaching.

The funny thing is so did Minnesota. How did they play this game any differently? Peterson got 25 carries and they made sure to stick with the run regardless. They did the same thing the first time around. Favre started out very safe and then eventually let loose and picked the secondary apart.

Defensively, Green Bay stunk. There is no way around it.

Offensively, Green Bay made some adjustments. They didn't make any ingame adjustments in the first half though which they should have done. The playcalling in the first half was very hesitant. It seemed like they were more worried about getting sacked than taking advantage of I'm sorry, but a very vulnerable secondary without their best player.

There some poor coaching all around and DD80 is right, talent plays a factor. Chilly can do a lot more when he's got the best guard in football and best RB maybe player in football.

Minnesota is a very very good football team and their record indicates it. They've beaten GB twice, SF who is average and a Baltimore team that throttled Denver.

Why some can't come to terms with that is just mind blowing.

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I don't think there is as much Talent as you think.

Woodson is the best player on this defense. After that Harris is overrated these days. Hawk, Barnett, Chillar and Poppinga are average. Kampman is out of position, though he did get to rush more with his hand down against the Vikes. Collins is overrated by Packer fans, Bigby flat out stinks. The D-Line is again average and there is NO DEPTH whatsoever.

Like Jennings, you overhype guys at times. Some good players but nothing that the 85 Bears are going to be threatened by.

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