hosemeoff
15 years ago

OK, no offense to anybody, but Bullshit on this eval. Anytime I see a still pic used as evidence in a football game, I want to bitch slap somebody.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:


Wowza! Wish were you here when Favre was being flogged by similar still frames in the NFCCG. I still think that was simply an unfortunate occurance of another pro making a great play rather than a bonehead decision by a QB.

Rodgers is good. He's probably top five ... among young QBs, but he still has a lot to learn before he's better than a lot of vets. I think it's time for the kid gloves to come off, and no, I don't think daggers in both hands should replace the gloves. Being a 5th year QB, I expect to see improvement in decision making. Remembering check-downs, especially when behind, would be a step in the right direction. Rodgers has a talented, deep, and somewhat costly receiving corp. One of Rodgers' problems is that he gets into a mindset where he looks for the big, wide-open strike to his talented WRs. I haven't seen him throwing into a lot of tight spots since his fantastic TD last year. Time to start using that big, accurate arm. No guts, no glory, yada yada yada...

Regarding those who say, if we get Rodgers an O-line he'll be great, I have to disagree or at least approach this cautiously. Good O-lines cost money. We've spent that money on QB, receivers, and some defense. If we secure the money for a better O-line, another area of the team will have to be trimmed. A veteran QB can hide a lot of flaws in a bad O-line. Let's hope we get a little of both: commitment to building a solid, two-deep O-line, and a QB that shows veteran savvy. That's when Rodgers, and more imporatantly the Packers, will be great.
blank
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I'm not going to continue what I was saying.

I think the guy did a good job and his point is clear. Which is Rodgers held the ball too long a few times and he could have gotten rid of the ball sooner. I disagree with his examples, but firmly agree with his point.
UserPostedImage
porky88
15 years ago
Rodgers should of dumped it off on the fumble. No question about it as they pointed that out on the broadcast, but that's still not to say he had a lot of time to throw the ball. He didn't.

The safety is a different story. The Packers are down so they'll be calling more plays down the field. That's what Rodgers was doing. He was looking down the field. It was also 3rd down. That play isn't going to get you a first down. Not at all. Rodgers was looking for the 1st down like coaches teach quarterbacks to do. I watched that play too. He had 3.5 seconds before the pressure got to him. Then he was flushed out of the pocket, pumped and was sacked.

It's better to take a sack then throw an INT in that situation. Rodgers can't be thinking, I better not take a safety, he's got to be thinking, I better get the first down. If the Packer were winning, the right play is to dump it off.

As far as Favre. That comparison is not fair. Favre is one of the best EVER at getting the ball out fast. That's not to say Favre would be better behind this line because there have been times when Rodgers' mobility have allowed him to escape a sack and attempt to make something happen. Favre cannot do that anymore.

As pointed out as well, Favre had it much easier. Minnesota was rushing four and getting pressure. GB was basically letting Favre beat them. The Vikings gameplanned to stop the Packers' passing game. The Packers did the opposite. They dared Favre to beat them and he did. They wanted to shut down Adrian Peterson.

To expand further it's apples and oranges. Two different players. Watch Tom Brady play, he doesn't get rid of the ball as fast as Favre. Nobody compares them because they're different QBs. Every QB does something different. As far as Rodgers having to improve. Well of course he does. He's only going to be 25 I think. It's his second year as a starter. He needs to improve in a lot of areas and to state otherwise would be ridiculous.

That's not state that he's not good. Rodgers is playing at a Pro Bowl level right now.

However, to state that he's part or half of the problem right like some are doing now with him is even more wrong. It's so absurd that it's becoming my pet peeve. The offensive line and specifically the guards playing tackle is the problem right now and not Aaron Rodgers.

He's just playing his game. He's going to keep the play alive as long as he can. It's not nitpicking pointing out that Rodgers needs to do this better, it is nitpicking when people think he's part of the problem right now or if he could just get rid of the ball faster, GB would be much better. That's just the wrong idea.
zombieslayer
15 years ago

However, to state that he's part or half of the problem right like some are doing now with him is even more wrong. It's so absurd that it's becoming my pet peeve. The offensive line and specifically the guards playing tackle is the problem right now and not Aaron Rodgers.



True dat.

As far as I'm concerned, Aaron is a Pro Bowl candidate. Probably runner-up considering how a few other QBs in this Conference are playing.

If our OL was half as talented as Aaron, we wouldn't have this discussion right now.

Our OL is so bad and Aaron is so talented, that with an AVERAGE OL, our O would be kicking butt.

It's the OL who gets the fail, not Aaron.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

However, to state that he's part or half of the problem right like some are doing now with him is even more wrong. It's so absurd that it's becoming my pet peeve. The offensive line and specifically the guards playing tackle is the problem right now and not Aaron Rodgers.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



True dat.

As far as I'm concerned, Aaron is a Pro Bowl candidate. Probably runner-up considering how a few other QBs in this Conference are playing.

If our OL was half as talented as Aaron, we wouldn't have this discussion right now.

Our OL is so bad and Aaron is so talented, that with an AVERAGE OL, our O would be kicking butt.

It's the OL who gets the fail, not Aaron.



If we're 3 - 1 ... I don't think we talk about Aaron at all other than positive. When you lose games you feel you could have and should have won, you start looking for things that could be improved.
UserPostedImage
zombieslayer
15 years ago
Zero - True. However, the OL needs to be improved the most.

Look at the current poll results. I've never seen a landslide poll like this before.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
CDNRodgersfan
15 years ago
Well all I'll say is if holding on to the ball to long is his only problem I can live with that At least to that's more teachable then bad accuracy or other more fundamental problems
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Well all I'll say is if holding on to the ball to long is his only problem I can live with that At least to that's more teachable then bad accuracy or other more fundamental problems

"Cdnfavre+Rodgersfan" wrote:



If I was getting sacked left and right, I'd be getting rid of that ball fast as fuck! Hut, hut, hike, TOSS IT QUICK!! lol
UserPostedImage
CDNRodgersfan
15 years ago
LOL You remember that movie Nessesary Roughness? I just remembered that backup qb who runs behind the refs. Maybe Aaron should try it
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
If Rodgers starts throwing the ball away fast enough to avoid these sacks. Here is what I expect to see. Watch from 1:50 point


The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Fan Shout
packerfanoutwest (3h) : NFL told Bears that Packers’ blocked field goal was legal
packerfanoutwest (20h) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
Zero2Cool (22-Nov) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked
Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?
beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.
bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league
packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.
beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."
Mucky Tundra (17-Nov) : my worst case scenario: Bears fix their oline and get a coach like Johnson from the Lions and his scheme
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Bears get OL fixed amd we might have a problem
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Pretty sure they already have scouting reports on guys who aren't even starting for their college team. The future is now for me.
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : I tend to let Gute and Co. Worry about the future.
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Jaire and Evans Williams are both ACTIVE! Good news.
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : The badgers really need to change the whole offensive scheme. No draws no screens plus the quarterback is marginal
Cheesey (17-Nov) : If the Badgers had a decent QB, they would have won. The guy can't hit a wide open receiver
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : chop block
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : there was a very questionable job Block call that upon viewing replay was very borderline
beast (17-Nov) : How so? (I didn't watch)
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Badgers got hosed vs Oregon
packerfanoutwest (16-Nov) : damn,he hasn't played since week 2
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

22-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

19-Nov / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.