porky88
15 years ago
I'd like to add a tad more... Packer fans were spoiled for 16 years so I think their perception of a good or great quarterback is a bit off much like it was for Steve Young who was one of the best players in the NFL in 1992 and 1993. He was picked apart by 49er fans and Joe Montana fans.

Now Rodgers is not even close to Steve Young and I'm not saying anyone on here is wrong about saying Rodgers is holding the ball too long as he is, but it's not like these sacks are coming between 4.5 and 6 seconds. They're coming between 3.1 and 4 seconds or the ones that some are putting on Rodgers are. Rodgers needs to adjust, but even if he does, it's not going to make a huge difference in the outcome of the game.

The problems with the line also run deeper than just protecting Rodgers. They can't run block either. If I'm making a checklist, Rodgers is behind the five offensive lineman, Mike McCarthy, and Ted Thompson on what is wrong with the offense right now.

That's my main point and there seems to be a 50/50 split on who is responsible for the most sacks. For every offensive line is bad post, there is a Rodgers post to go with it. The blame shouldn't be that close.
longtimefan
15 years ago
News flash Rodgers holds on to the ball to long..

Who knew?

I think majority of people would agree with that statement..And again if that is the biggest flaw he has WOW..

In 05 when Brett was tossing 29 ints it was because every one around him sucked..Now I am not saying this team is as bad as 05, but the o-l for sure is about as bad as 05 if you ask me..But since it isn't Brett behind the line, Rodgers is going to be spat on by certain people.


And we all knew stuff like this would happen..The q/b that took over for Brett no matter what is NEVER going to be given any credit by certain people..

If he wins a MVP, we will hear he has to win at least 3..If he goes to one SB we will hear he has to go to 2 of them

Hell even Brett himself said that last year..

So I am just starting to allow the ones that will not and can not give Rodgers any credit just flap at the fingers and move on

give the man some time, this is only the 21st start


Look at Bretts 1st 21 starts and tell me what you see
Dulak
15 years ago

News flash Rodgers holds on to the ball to long..

Who knew?

I think majority of people would agree with that statement..And again if that is the biggest flaw he has WOW..

In 05 when Brett was tossing 29 ints it was because every one around him sucked..Now I am not saying this team is as bad as 05, but the o-l for sure is about as bad as 05 if you ask me..But since it isn't Brett behind the line, Rodgers is going to be spat on by certain people.


And we all knew stuff like this would happen..The q/b that took over for Brett no matter what is NEVER going to be given any credit by certain people..

If he wins a MVP, we will hear he has to win at least 3..If he goes to one SB we will hear he has to go to 2 of them

Hell even Brett himself said that last year..

So I am just starting to allow the ones that will not and can not give Rodgers any credit just flap at the fingers and move on

give the man some time, this is only the 21st start


Look at Bretts 1st 21 starts and tell me what you see

"longtimefan" wrote:



I enjoyed the comments on this thread ...

I got a image in my mind about how rodgers plays after reading all these posts and watching his games ...

and that is the guy developes a personality while playing. He likes to drop back find his receivers and make the big pass to them 20+ yards.

Or he likes to run wide and make the running throw to his sure handed receivers. Heck he even likes to fake throw and run for 12.

He is not exactly used to having to make these quick little throws/slants or passes.
The first drive of the Min game you saw the quick hand offs. But it was mainly only in the first drive vs MN.

Rodgers is learning about himself while he plays ... hopefully we can give him more time to do this with better blocking and a good coaching staff
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
My definition of holding the ball too long is when pressure is on and Rodgers sees it, has a open person to throw it to or open lane to chuck away and gets sacked. To me, that's holding the ball too long. That can happen in 2 seconds or 8 seconds.

You see pressure, find your dump off, can't find the dump, throw it out of bounds, can't throw it out of bounds? protect the ball take the sack. Rodgers did that fairly well except his fumble of course.
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