Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I assure you this won't happen, but listed are some of the changes and non changes I'd like to see.

Wynn for Grant (I like them both, but Wynn is far more talented) and 20 carries a game.

Colledge needs to stay at LG until Clifton retires and I'm not even so sure about that, but LG for sure. We felt that Spitz was better than Wells at C, and Colledge was better than Spitz at LG. So why did we weaken TWO spots PLUS the LT position at the same time? I'd prefer to use Lang and let the kid show us what he can do. And if he gets ran over, well, so is Colledge! And then we just run to the right or bootleg to the right a bit more. The OL shuffle = LOSE

Bishop for Barnett, I'm tired of the samari I want to see a sledge hammer.

Nelson/Tramon for Blackmon on returns and get rid of Blackmon, too injury prone for my tastes now.

More blitz's from the defense. Against the Bears the defense was fucking exciting to watch because you could see the defenders roaming around damn near taunting the QB. Now? Everyone is sitting still waiting for the snap. I prefer the aggressive nature instead of the reactive nature.

Rodgers, STOP HOLDING ONTO THE BALL SO LONG! I know you're freaked out when you count to 4 and still haven't gotten laid out, but shit bro chuck that shit away!

We should have Brandon Jackson and Atari Bigby back after the BYE week. That should make us better.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Wynn has an injury and as people said, can't catch.

Bump him.

Move Lumpkin up.
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gbguy20
15 years ago

Wynn has an injury and as people said, can't catch.

Bump him.

Move Lumpkin up.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



in your first post you are calling to make wynn #1 and give him the ball 20 times a game rather than grant, now you want him cut in the next post?

what?
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masseyattack
15 years ago

Wynn has an injury and as people said, can't catch.

Bump him.

Move Lumpkin up.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I'd like to see the Packers split the carries in the backfield in general. Grant hasn't performed to his contract for a year and a half now (rating him by his yards per carry). Despite Wynn's reasonably stout blocking on third downs, I'd prefer Jackson to be back there when fit because he can actually catch the football.

Other than that I agree with Bishop for Barnett, I can't remember Barnett making too many plays this season, in fact I've seen him run over numerous times.

I'd like to see Kampman rushing with his hand down a fair few times every game.

Maybe Giordano at safety, I've got no idea how good he is, but he can't be worse than Martin looked last night. To be honest, Bush didn't look too bad back there, even though I still think he's a better corner than safety.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Wynn has an injury and as people said, can't catch.

Bump him.

Move Lumpkin up.

"gbguy20" wrote:



in your first post you are calling to make wynn #1 and give him the ball 20 times a game rather than grant, now you want him cut in the next post?

what?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



You didn't read did ya? He's got a bum wrist now and as others have pointed out, can't catch.

Recap, bum limb, can't catch = good bye. :)


Although, it's probably best to stand pat until we have some solid OL play first THEN worry about who should be running the ball. I'd just prefer to see someone else get some carries at the RB position. They won't give many to Grant, maybe they'll give them to someone else??? lol

I just do not know!!
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gbguy20
15 years ago

Wynn has an injury and as people said, can't catch.

Bump him.

Move Lumpkin up.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



in your first post you are calling to make wynn #1 and give him the ball 20 times a game rather than grant, now you want him cut in the next post?

what?

"gbguy20" wrote:



You didn't read did ya? He's got a bum wrist now and as others have pointed out, can't catch.

Recap, bum limb, can't catch = good bye. :)


Although, it's probably best to stand pat until we have some solid OL play first THEN worry about who should be running the ball. I'd just prefer to see someone else get some carries at the RB position. They won't give many to Grant, maybe they'll give them to someone else??? lol

I just do not know!!

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



it is still a pretty drastic change from 1 post to the next, don't ya think?

i agree with your second post, though.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Wynn has an injury and as people said, can't catch.

Bump him.

Move Lumpkin up.

"masseyattack" wrote:



I'd like to see the Packers split the carries in the backfield in general. Grant hasn't performed to his contract for a year and a half now (rating him by his yards per carry). Despite Wynn's reasonably stout blocking on third downs, I'd prefer Jackson to be back there when fit because he can actually catch the football.

Other than that I agree with Bishop for Barnett, I can't remember Barnett making too many plays this season, in fact I've seen him run over numerous times.

I'd like to see Kampman rushing with his hand down a fair few times every game.

Maybe Giordano at safety, I've got no idea how good he is, but he can't be worse than Martin looked last night. To be honest, Bush didn't look too bad back there, even though I still think he's a better corner than safety.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



If they won't give Grant 20 carries, put someone in that they will give 20 carries to ... I guess that's my main point. I just don't believe any RB can get it going on 10-15 carries on a regular basis. I think you need 20 or more to get into a good grove for the RB and the OL.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Wynn has an injury and as people said, can't catch.

Bump him.

Move Lumpkin up.

"gbguy20" wrote:



in your first post you are calling to make wynn #1 and give him the ball 20 times a game rather than grant, now you want him cut in the next post?

what?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



You didn't read did ya? He's got a bum wrist now and as others have pointed out, can't catch.

Recap, bum limb, can't catch = good bye. :)


Although, it's probably best to stand pat until we have some solid OL play first THEN worry about who should be running the ball. I'd just prefer to see someone else get some carries at the RB position. They won't give many to Grant, maybe they'll give them to someone else??? lol

I just do not know!!

"gbguy20" wrote:



it is still a pretty drastic change from 1 post to the next, don't ya think?

i agree with your second post, though.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



It is and I explained why the drastic change. Heck, I didn't say it made sense! lol

I said it better in my post previous to this regarding the RB position.
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gbguy20
15 years ago
Haha ok.

Anywho, I'm really looking forward to BJackson returning. Hopefully his return will bring back some of the focus to the running game. He seems to specialize in the screens/dump off passes, along with a good change of pace from Grant. Maybe with him in there it will make things easier for grant to get going.

Of course, this is all for nothing if our offensive line continues to play like garbage. That needs to be changed first and fore-most.
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Dulak
15 years ago

I assure you this won't happen, but listed are some of the changes and non changes I'd like to see.

Wynn for Grant (I like them both, but Wynn is far more talented) and 20 carries a game.

Colledge needs to stay at LG until Clifton retires and I'm not even so sure about that, but LG for sure. We felt that Spitz was better than Wells at C, and Colledge was better than Spitz at LG. So why did we weaken TWO spots PLUS the LT position at the same time? I'd prefer to use Lang and let the kid show us what he can do. And if he gets ran over, well, so is Colledge! And then we just run to the right or bootleg to the right a bit more. The OL shuffle = LOSE

Bishop for Barnett, I'm tired of the samari I want to see a sledge hammer.

Nelson/Tramon for Blackmon on returns and get rid of Blackmon, too injury prone for my tastes now.

More blitz's from the defense. Against the Bears the defense was fucking exciting to watch because you could see the defenders roaming around damn near taunting the QB. Now? Everyone is sitting still waiting for the snap. I prefer the aggressive nature instead of the reactive nature.

Rodgers, STOP HOLDING ONTO THE BALL SO LONG! I know you're freaked out when you count to 4 and still haven't gotten laid out, but shit bro chuck that shit away!

We should have Brandon Jackson and Atari Bigby back after the BYE week. That should make us better.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Geez here I thought I was the only one on these boards with these opinions/feelings (made a whole thread last week about the above also - only got a few responses.)

Concerning grant, barnett, jackson/wynn and a new return guy.

To be honest I liked Mike McCarthy play calling alot more in this game then some of his others. Meaning more screens and short passes to stop the pressure.
It was a start ...

-edit- if jackson is gtg; I agree with the part about bumping wynn; lets get woodhead from the jets practice squad (ya Im going to keep hammering that till I see a good back on our team). (btw this guy returns well also).
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Zero2Cool (1h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (1h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (1h) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (1h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (2h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (2h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (2h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (2h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (2h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (2h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (2h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (2h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (2h) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (2h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (2h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (2h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (2h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
Zero2Cool (2h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.
packerfanoutwest (2h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in
packerfanoutwest (2h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker
packerfanoutwest (2h) : if bucs win out they win their division
beast (2h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us
packerfanoutwest (2h) : falcons are already ahead of us
beast (2h) : Packers will get in
beast (2h) : If Packers lose the rest of their games and Falcons win the rest of theirs, they could pass us... but not gonna happen
packerfanoutwest (3h) : they still are in the playoffs
packerfanoutwest (3h) : If Packers lose the remaining games,,,,at 10-7
Zero2Cool (4h) : We can say it. We don't play.
Mucky Tundra (5h) : But to say they are in is looking past the Saints
Mucky Tundra (5h) : That said, their odds are very favorable with a >99% chance of making the playoffs entering this week's games
Mucky Tundra (6h) : Packers are not in and have not clinched a playoff spot.
buckeyepackfan (6h) : Packers are in, they need to keep winning to improve their seed#.
Mucky Tundra (15h) : Getting help would have been nice, but helping ourselves should always be the plan
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bboystyle (16h) : We just need to win Monday night and were in
Mucky Tundra (19h) : Or ties, but let's be real here
Mucky Tundra (19h) : Other scenario was Falcons+Rams losses
Mucky Tundra (19h) : Needed a Falcons loss for a Seahawk loss to clinch
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Martha Careful (21-Dec) : I think MLF want Love to look past the end half issues, and feel good about his play. Our coaches generally keep a very positive tone.
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