nerdmann
15 years ago
RUNNING BACKS

Halfbacks:
Ryan Grant
Brandon Jackson
Tyrell Sutton

Fullbacks:
DeShawn Wynn
Quinn Johnson

QUARTERBACKS
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Flynn
Brian Brohm (I'd keep him over Tarvaris Jackson, even if Jackson gets cut. Anyway, I think they'll end up trading Jackson.)

TIGHT ENDS
Donald Lee
Jermicheal Finley
Spencer Havner (Can also play OLB, so it's like having an extra player without the roster spot.)
Evan Moore -Injured Reserve. Dude's big and he can move, so I'd take another look at him next year.

RECIEVERS
Greg Jennings
Donald Driver
James Jones
Jordi Nelson
Ruvell Martin (Only because he's Rodgers' buddy.)
Cole Heckendorf

OFFENSIVE LINE
Chad Clifton
Daryn Colledge
Spitz
Sitton
Alan Barbre
Scott Wells
T.J. Lang
Jamon Meredith
Duke Preston, although I'd be scouring the waiver wire to upgrade over Preston.

DEFENSIVE LINE
Johnny Jolly
Ryan Pickett
Cullin Jenkins
B.J. Raji
Jarius Wynn (He's gonna be very good with an offseason under his belt as a pro.)
Micheal Montgomery, but I'd scour the waver wire to upgrade.
Justin Harrell, I'd PUP him.

LINEBACKERS

Outside:
Aaron Kampman
Clay Mathews
Jeremy Thompson
Brad Jones, yeah, I'd keep him over Poppinga.

Inside:
Desmond Bishop
Brandon Chillar
A.J. Hawk
Nick Barnett

DEFENSIVE BACKS

Corners:
Charles Woodson
Al Harris
Tramon Williams
Will Blackmon
Pat Lee, possible IR, due to his back. Keep Joe Porter if you IR Lee.
Demetrius Underwood, this guy's gonna be real good someday.

Safeties
Nick Collins
Atari Bigby
Aaron Rouse
Anthony Smith

SPECIALISTS
Mason Crosby
Brett Goode
I'd package a bunch of these other players, like Lumpkin and some other guys and trade them for a decent Punter. Neither of our punters are consistent enough.
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beast
15 years ago
IMO Wynn isn't a FB... Hall the starting FB

They goes with 5 WRs
Breno over Preston (Preston is pointless to keep with Lang and Wells the #2... they need another OT not IOL.)

I'd keep ILB Danny L. instead if the 6th WR

Bye bye Rouse.... Bush makes it back again....
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nerdmann
15 years ago
Yeah, I'd keep Breno over Duke Preston. Good call.
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porky88
15 years ago
Poppinga is a lock for a few reasons.

1) The regime loves him as a player. His attitude, presence or whatever reason.

2) He's great on special teams. Something the Packers need to be concerned about after last season.

3) He's a reliable backup. If Matthews and Thompson prove injury prone, I'll take Poppinga by default over Brad Jones right now even though Jones clearly has upside.
nerdmann
15 years ago
Yeah, he's made plays recently. With Mathews and Thompson sidelined, he's been at the right place at the right time to have passes tipped by Nick Collins fall right into his hands. I think he's fallen on a fumble or two as well. Like Bedard says, Poppinga is like a cockroach. He survives anything.
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all_about_da_packers
15 years ago
Hm, interesting choices.

Personal opinions:

1) Wynn isn't a fullback - IMO he'll be the third (and final RB) on this team.

1B) Quinn Johnson isn't the best player at FB on this roster. He may be a punishing blocker, but he isn't much else. Hall/Khun are faster, more experienced, and play on the 1st STs. They've got a leg up on Johnson, IMO.

2) 5 WRs will be enough. I fully expect MM to use TE Finley as the situational WR if need be. Heckendorf might be a solid practice squad candidate, but otherwise he has nothing on Ruvell for the 5th WR spot.

3) I hope we take 7 D-Linemen into the season (instead of 6 WRs). Harrell can't be put on PUP (wasn't on it at start of TC) so I'd put him on IR. I'd keep another project - like Tally - or Toribio and hope for the best. We should have versatility with the group you listed.

4) I think Jones is a good practice squad candidate. I'd much rather keep Poppinga because he is someone who continuously answers MM's 'availability and acountability' requirement. Popp's an intense player, and reliable - much more so than Jones.

5) Jarret Bush IMO should be kept over Brandon Underwood. Bush, despite his short fallings as a press-man corner, can play either S or CB, is solid on Special Teams, and has the athletic skill set you look for in corners playing zone. I'd love to see Underwood be put on the Practice Squad, but am not sure if me makes it. Him missing the OTAs really hurt his chances to better grasp this system and show his skills, IMO.
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RainX
15 years ago
If I had to pick today:

QBs - Rodgers, Flynn, Brohm
RBs - Grant, Jackson, Sutton
FBs - Hall, Johnson
TEs - Lee, Finley, Havner
WRs - Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Martin
OL - Clifton, Barbre, Spitz, Colledge, Sitton, Wells, Lang, Giacomini, Meredith

CBs - Harris, Woodson, Williams, Lee, Blackmon, Bush
Ss - Collins, Rouse, Bigby, Smith
OLBs - Kampman, Poppinga, Matthews, Thompson
ILBs - Hawk, Barnett, Chillar, Bishop, Lansanah
DL - Raji, Pickett, Jenkins, Jolly, Wynn, Montgomery

STs - Crosby, Kapinos, Goode
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packersfan99
15 years ago
I liked RainX pics at QB, RB, FB, TE, WR, CB, OLB.

At the others position I will make change

OL - Tauscher (wait for him) for Giacomini

Ss - Add Peprah

DL - Harrell for Montgomery
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Dulak
15 years ago
See thats the thing I like all our FBs - but I have a feeling we will only keep 2.

Kuhn had a nice ST play on saturday there. Been liking quinns blocks and Hall is always a great go to man.

I'm liking suttons plays this preseason. Havnt seen wynn much.

I'm pretty sure grant and jackson are a shoe in its just deciding between wynn lumpkin and sutton. Have a feeling sutton has a shoe in if he keeps running like he does (behind our nice FB ;)

So far with our 5th WR - I cant tell whom will make the cut; I would think if nonone stand out martin gets the nod again. Problem is brohm has been playing QB so much and he hasnt been throwing well so we cant see how our 5th WR will do. Swain looks decent on ST and catching thou - wouldnt be surprised if he gets taken.

Id really like a bigger fat man on our Dline - montgomery and wynn are light-weights but montg. has been getting alot of talk about how well he has been doing so perhaps he should be a keeper.

I'm loving bishops play this preseason. Barnett used to be my fav LB - but I got to say if bishop keeps playing this way he'll get my top nod. We havnt even seen thompson or matthews play.

smith seems like a pretty good player - even thou hes got a bit of a ego problem IMO and has pulled a few penalties - I like his play.

I'm not that impressed with poppinga's play - even thou it seems the team likes him (hes always going on charity events and in plays). He doesnt seem to do that well.

I'm really liking our Oline much better this year. Much more then last year - we havnt faced a tough D team yet thou.
mhartsellm
15 years ago
c/p from another site: Looks to be a logical 53. Hope this if not breaking any rules nor has been posted already.


Packer Report wrote:
The Packer Report: Final 53

Tough roster choices are looming at halfback, linebacker, defensive line and the defensive backfield. Packer Report examines those battles to tell you who will make the cut and who will be looking for work.

Once you get past the marquee players and the veterans, the star of the Packers training camp and preseason has been undrafted running back Tyrell Sutton.

Sutton ranks second in the NFL in rushing in the preseason, his 5-foot-8 frame running around and through tacklers in the same fashion as he runs around and through the stereotypes that tend to get stuck on small backs. In his 27 preseason rushes, hes lost yardage once and got back to the line of scrimmage twice. The other 24 have gone for positive yardage, including four rushes of at least 10 yards and a whopping 16 carries of at least 5 yards.

His development means running back will be one of the toughest positions when general manager Ted Thompson has to make roster cuts. Rosters must be trimmed to 53 players by Sept. 5 (the relatively inconsequential cut to 75 is on Sept. 1). Players can be signed to the practice squad the following day.

The following is our assessment of the roster through two preseason games. The number of players at each position follows what the Packers typically do but is not set in stone.

Offense
Quarterbacks (3): Projection Aaron Rodgers, Matt Flynn, TBA. Cut Brian Brohm. Toughest cut Brohm. Why? Brohm might stick based on draft status and the hope that the hot-shot quarterback who carved up pretty good Big East defenses while at Louisville will emerge at some point. At this point, though, the Packers would be better off with Brian Griese or whoever the Vikings get rid of.

Running backs (4): Projection Ryan Grant, Brandon Jackson, DeShawn Wynn, Tyrell Sutton. Cut Kregg Lumpkin. Toughest cut None. Why? Carrying four running backs is a luxury but Sutton has played so well that some back-starved team would snatch him off waivers before he could be signed to the practice squad. Fortunately, the Packers have wiggle room because of a certain tight end/linebacker. Jackson is having a strong camp and Wynns blitz-pickup skills are an enormous asset. Lumpkin has taken a step back from last year, and his fumble against Buffalo doesnt help his cause.

Fullbacks (2): Projection Korey Hall, Quinn Johnson. Cut John Kuhn. Toughest cut Kuhn. Why? Hall and Kuhn are clearly better than Johnson, but Johnsons potential is immense. Hall is the better all-around player but not by much. This is practically a coin flip, but Hall has improved as a blocker and is a slightly better player on special teams.

Wide receivers (5): Projection Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones, Jordy Nelson, Ruvell Martin. Cuts Jake Allen, Brett Swain, Kole Heckendorf, JaRon Harris. Toughest cut None. Why? Why mess with success? Based purely on catching the ball and making plays, Swain might be better than Martin, but Martin is a big guy who enjoys the dirty work. The 6-foot-4 Allen, however, has more upside than all of them. Swain, Allen and Heckendorf look like solid practice squad candidates.

Tight ends (3): Projection Donald Lee, Jermichael Finley, Spencer Havner. Cut Evan Moore. Toughest cut None. After playing linebacker throughout college and his first three years in the NFL, Havner has been a surprise at tight end. His ability to add depth at two spots is why the Packers can keep Sutton (or an additional linebacker). Regardless of whether he starts, Finley seems set to have a huge year.

Offensive line (9): Projection Chad Clifton, Daryn Colledge, Jason Spitz, Josh Sitton, Allen Barbre, T.J. Lang, Breno Giacomini, Scott Wells, Jamon Meredith. Cuts Tony Moll, Duke Preston, Evan Dietrich-Smith, Andrew Hartline, Dane Randolph. Toughest cut Moll. Why? The big decision here is whether Thompson thinks Meredith can make it to the practice squad. If so, Moll will stick and Meredith will be released. Meredith has improved throughout camp and is a potential heir to Chad Cliftons spot at left tackle, but at this point, hes not ready for the NFL. Molls versatility is a huge asset, but the Packers are set with backups at center (Wells), guard (T.J. Lang or Spitz, with Wells moving in at center), right tackle (Giacomini) and left tackle (Colledge is a better option than Moll, who has spent the entire offseason and camp at left tackle). Dietrich-Smith is a definite practice squad candidate.

Defense
Defensive line (6): Projection Ryan Pickett, Cullen Jenkins, B.J. Raji, Johnny Jolly, Michael Montgomery, Jarius Wynn. Injured reserve Justin Harrell. Cuts Ronald Talley, Alfred Malone, Anthony Toribio, Dean Muhtadi. Toughest cut None. Why? With a healthy Harrell, the Packers would have had to choose between the veteran Montgomery and the rookie Wynn. Now, its pretty easy. But, this could be a position the Packers want to fortify with a bigger body. In that case, Wynn gets the nod based on potential. The undrafted Talley is definitely someone to consider for the practice squad.

Linebackers (9): Projection Aaron Kampman, Brady Poppinga, Nick Barnett, A.J. Hawk, Clay Matthews III, Brandon Chillar, Desmond Bishop, Brad Jones, Jeremy Thompson, Havner (listed in the tight end count). Cuts Cyril Obiozor, Danny Lansanah, Stryker Sulak. Toughest cut Obiozor. Why? Poppinga went from a 50-50 proposition at the start of camp, when he seemed hopelessly stuck behind ironman Kampman at left outside linebacker, to the presumed starter at right outside linebacker, because Matthews and Thompson havent been healthy. So, its Jones and Obiozor batting for the last spot. Obiozor won Round 1 vs. Cleveland (Jones didnt play while recovering from a strained back), and Jones won Round 2 vs. Buffalo with a sack and forced fumble. Teams around the league are watching to see who gets cut among Obiozor, Jones and Lansanah. It might be wishful thinking to hide any of them on the practice squad.

Secondary (9): Projection Charles Woodson, Al Harris, Atari Bigby, Nick Collins, Tramon Williams, Will Blackmon, Pat Lee, Anthony Smith, Jarrett Bush. Cuts Aaron Rouse, Charlie Peprah, Brandon Underwood, Joe Porter, Trevor Ford. Toughest cut Rouse. Why? Rouse was having a good camp but a hamstring injury struck at the wrong time. In a three-way battle between Rouse, Peprah and Bush, Bush gets the nod because hes a starter on all of the special teams, and he can play corner in a pinch. Underwood, a talented but raw sixth-round pick, is a strong candidate for the practice squad. Hes been coming on strong.

Special teams
Projection (3) Mason Crosby (kicker), Jeremy Kapinos (punter), Brett Goode (snapper). Cuts Durant Brooks (punter). Toughest cut None. Why? Brooks is injured, and that hip fiexor is a long-term concern. Kapinos kicked the leather off the ball on Monday night and had a good performance against Buffalo.


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