go.pack.go.
15 years ago

Completely off topic, it is so confusing having a go.pack.go and a gopackgo on the same forum. But you both make excellent contributions to this site, so I can't complain. :magnifyglass:

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Yeah I was thinking the same thing haha. Oh well. lol
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djcubez
15 years ago

Not surprised one bit at all. Seems like everyone in baseball is on 'roids. Hopefully Pujols stays clean.

"go.pack.go." wrote:


My sentiments exactly. I've already lost most of my faith in and respect for baseball but if I learn Pujols cheats too? That's it for me.
15 years ago
I would bet money that Pujols used/uses PEDs.

Can you imagine what Ortiz would look like WITHOUT a history of steroids and possibly other PEDs?? Hahaha... man...
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go.pack.go.
15 years ago
I don't think it's fair to accuse Pujols of using 'roids, especially since he hasn't tested positive.
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Cheesey
15 years ago
Well.....back before it was illegal, i bet alot of players used. All trying to get the competetive edge.
When no one had hit over 61 homers in a season in 30 plus years, then you have guys hitting 70 or more, that should be a red flag.
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15 years ago

I don't think it's fair to accuse Pujols of using 'roids, especially since he hasn't tested positive.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



I ain't "accusing" anyone. I'm just saying that if the opportunity presented itself, I wouldn't hesitate to bet he has.
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Pack93z
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15 years ago
Honestly, can you say that you don't look and wonder if Pujols is clean? OR Braun? Or Fielder? Or Dunn?

How about Nelson Cruz whom all of a sudden has found a power swing in the majors when he was up and down in the Brewers farm system?

Maybe it is too much to consider him guilty, but as it stands right now, I wouldn't put money on the fact that anyone is clean.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
go.pack.go.
15 years ago
Nor would I. I'm just saying I don't think we should accuse Pujols or anyone that hasn't tested positive of using steroids. MPF I'm not saying you did, I'm just saying that we shouldn't.
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djcubez
15 years ago
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6619/career;_ylt=AtUvlcr7UKhSD90yzmA34_mFCLcF 

He's never hit below .315 BA for a season, his lowest home run total is 32 and he's never had below 100 RBI's. Unless the guy simply has been using steroids his whole life, which I sincerely doubt, he really is that good. It sucks that baseball is so tainted we question even the most charismatic, good-natured and respectable players in the game.
porky88
15 years ago
I trust Ken Griffey Jr mostly because he's been my favorite player since I was a kid, but I also because I think I have good judgment.

Not shocked all. Thought he was on something and this confirms it. Manny doesn't shock me either and the two of them were close so that just makes it more obvious.

Sosa, McGuire, and Bonds weren't shockers either when they tested. I felt while the home run chase was going on that Sosa and McGuire were cheating especially Sosa.

The only true surprises that would make me feel pretty disappointed actually would be Griffey Jr, Randy Johnson, Derek Jeter, Curt Schilling, Tom Glavine, John Smoltz, and Greg Maddux.

Beyond that nothing would surprise me.
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