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15 years ago

This article made me literally rub my hands with glee. This is EXACTLY the kind of management strategy I want for our team, and have for years. A lot of fans develop emotional attachments to specific players. I don't. My attachment is to the team, first and foremost. I want the Packers to win. The players are just pieces fit in to achieve that goal. So I never really understand it when people say things like, "I hope he gets to retire here" or "I'd really hate to see him go" for reasons other than his talent. The only reason why a player should be kept is because he's still performing at a high level and no one of equivalent or greater talent can be brought in at a reasonable price.

These guys make way too much money for me (or a good GM) to keep them around for purely sentimental reasons. They are tools in the quest for championships. If these guys really are about the team (maybe 1 in a 100 is), then they can choose to take a little less to stay wtih the team they profess to love. If they elect instead to strike out for greener pastures, best of luck to them, but I may or may not root for them (just as I root for some players who have never been Packers), but I won't grieve their departure. If they want to retire Packers, they can either stay with the organization or sign a one-day retirement deal at the end of their career.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:




No go back and read the thread I started about trading Driver and Harris for Boldin. You'd have Driver replaced and Harris has maybe two years left, but 1 good one for sure. How dare I bring that subject up?

I liked your post and agree.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
TheOldMan, the fact you stole Rockmolder's avatar is just creepy.
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Cheesey
15 years ago

This article made me literally rub my hands with glee. This is EXACTLY the kind of management strategy I want for our team, and have for years. A lot of fans develop emotional attachments to specific players. I don't. My attachment is to the team, first and foremost. I want the Packers to win. The players are just pieces fit in to achieve that goal. So I never really understand it when people say things like, "I hope he gets to retire here" or "I'd really hate to see him go" for reasons other than his talent. The only reason why a player should be kept is because he's still performing at a high level and no one of equivalent or greater talent can be brought in at a reasonable price.

These guys make way too much money for me (or a good GM) to keep them around for purely sentimental reasons. They are tools in the quest for championships. If these guys really are about the team (maybe 1 in a 100 is), then they can choose to take a little less to stay wtih the team they profess to love. If they elect instead to strike out for greener pastures, best of luck to them, but I may or may not root for them (just as I root for some players who have never been Packers), but I won't grieve their departure. If they want to retire Packers, they can either stay with the organization or sign a one-day retirement deal at the end of their career.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:


GREAT way of putting it!!! +1!!! :thumbleft:
There are some players that i become attached too, but NOT at the expense of the Packers. Ahman Green is a perfect example. I loved the guy, but when he was offered outrages money by another team, i would have gone nuts if we would have matched it. It was OBVIOUS he was at the end of his career, his best days were behind him. It would have been throwing money away at that point.
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dfosterf
15 years ago

This article made me literally rub my hands with glee. This is EXACTLY the kind of management strategy I want for our team, and have for years. A lot of fans develop emotional attachments to specific players. I don't. My attachment is to the team, first and foremost. I want the Packers to win. The players are just pieces fit in to achieve that goal. So I never really understand it when people say things like, "I hope he gets to retire here" or "I'd really hate to see him go" for reasons other than his talent. The only reason why a player should be kept is because he's still performing at a high level and no one of equivalent or greater talent can be brought in at a reasonable price.

These guys make way too much money for me (or a good GM) to keep them around for purely sentimental reasons. They are tools in the quest for championships. If these guys really are about the team (maybe 1 in a 100 is), then they can choose to take a little less to stay wtih the team they profess to love. If they elect instead to strike out for greener pastures, best of luck to them, but I may or may not root for them (just as I root for some players who have never been Packers), but I won't grieve their departure. If they want to retire Packers, they can either stay with the organization or sign a one-day retirement deal at the end of their career.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Non---

I don't know if you saw this article, but I think you are going to like it.

NFP- Matt Bowen debating Andrew Brandt 


What I like about this article the most is that Matt is telling the reader how it is, not how some would like it to be, or how many imagine it to be.
Pack93z
15 years ago

TheOldMan, the fact you stole Rockmolder's avatar is just creepy.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



A possible replacement? ;)

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Back to the topic.. I think how the next two years plays out will be extremely interesting with the number of "Ted's" players hitting the end of their contracts..
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
zombieslayer
15 years ago

This article made me literally rub my hands with glee. This is EXACTLY the kind of management strategy I want for our team, and have for years. A lot of fans develop emotional attachments to specific players. I don't. My attachment is to the team, first and foremost. I want the Packers to win. The players are just pieces fit in to achieve that goal. So I never really understand it when people say things like, "I hope he gets to retire here" or "I'd really hate to see him go" for reasons other than his talent. The only reason why a player should be kept is because he's still performing at a high level and no one of equivalent or greater talent can be brought in at a reasonable price.

These guys make way too much money for me (or a good GM) to keep them around for purely sentimental reasons. They are tools in the quest for championships. If these guys really are about the team (maybe 1 in a 100 is), then they can choose to take a little less to stay wtih the team they profess to love. If they elect instead to strike out for greener pastures, best of luck to them, but I may or may not root for them (just as I root for some players who have never been Packers), but I won't grieve their departure. If they want to retire Packers, they can either stay with the organization or sign a one-day retirement deal at the end of their career.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



As cold as that sounds, it's true.

I'm guilty of saying it. I've said it about Favre, and most recently about Donald Driver. I love Driver. I want to see him retire as a Packer.

But Driver will command a large salary as he falls down the depth chart from #1 WR to #2 WR (where he's at now, realistically), to eventually #3 behind Jones and #4 behind Jones and Jordy. Yes, I think Jones is better than Jordy and '09 will show I'm right. But that's changing the subject.

So the whole thing sucks. I do develop an emotional attachment. Driver entertained me. So I like him. I like his attitude. I like his work ethic. I like the fact that when his teammate scores, he feels like he scores. I love that.

But yeah, the ultimate goal is to win games and sometimes you have to be cold about it. Dang. Wish it wasn't that way, but it is what it is.
My man Donald Driver
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TheOldMan
15 years ago
Ted says, "FU*K Driver.

This is a business. He's gone.

I'm 31-33, but they don't hold ME to the same standard. Thank God.

That's life, beyotches".
Truth be known, I'm TT's baby!
wils0646
15 years ago

Ted says, "FU*K Driver.

This is a business. He's gone.

I'm 31-33, but they don't hold ME to the same standard. Thank God.

That's life, beyotches".

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Driver, like numerous other WRs in the NFL, will be evaluated every year to see if he's worth the coin to keep around. He obviously still is, but not every WR retires with their original team.

I swear some of you people act like every player on the Packers is part of your family. I get attached to players like most of you do, but all of this is part of the game. Not everyone goes out like Elway.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago

Ted says, "FU*K Driver.

"TheOldMan" wrote:



Was that a veiled crack at Ted's sexual proclivities?
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packersfan101101
15 years ago
I like the style of management. I think its smart not to over spend in free agency. The one part i dont agree with is not signing very good veterans after their contracts up. These guys are the core of the team and very important.
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