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15 years ago
You have absolutely got to be kidding me.. King must have received a sizeable envelope from Chitown in the mail recently.. there is no freaking way they should be that high.. none. Never mind their secondary that is in shambles.

A big ol' negative notch in the respect meter for Kings team assessment abilities.

4. Chicago
I may not like how Jay Cutler babied his way out of Denver, but by Labor Day, the football world will have forgotten, and by Thanksgiving, the most popular baby name in Chicagoland will be Jay. (Unless it's Jerry, as in Angelo, the man who stuck his neck out and made this deal.) Cutler's a big-time player, and I suspect we'll find out over the next few years if he has nerves of steel and can win the big game.

Now, there's two things we don't know about Cutler and this offense. There's not a great receiver in the house and no promise of one on the way (Angelo should have guaranteed Torry Holt more money to get him to come to the Windy City). So Cutler's going to have to make do with the Devin Hesters and Rashied Davises, apparently. (Not that there's anything wrong with Hester. But he should be a third receiver, using his speed to game-break.)

Two: How good of a leader can Cutler be, coming in with the knock that he chafes on some teammates. It'll be interesting to see if he meshes well with Brian Urlacher; I don't take for granted that he will. Because of the Cutler factor and because I don't love the defense the way I did two or three years ago, I didn't want to leap the Bears over so many other teams. But then I went back and looked at their 2008 numbers. The bedrock stats for a good defense, I've always thought, are opponents yards per rush, turnovers forced and opponents' yards per pass. The yards per rush, 3.4, was excellent, third-best in the league. Turnovers forced, 32, was very good, second in the league. And yards per pass play by foes, 6.20, was eighth in the league. All good. If Cutler can lead an offense that puts up 400 points, only a point and a fraction more than a year ago, the Bears should win 12.



14. Green Bay
I'm shocked the Packers won only six games last year. It just showed how valuable a piece of their puzzle Cullen Jenkins was. At 6-2 and 305 pounds and with good lateral quickness, he should come back from the torn pectoral that caused him to miss 12 games last year and play very well in the new 3-4. This is a team with far better talent than six wins, and I expect Aaron Rodgers to be better in the fourth quarter this year than last, by the sheer experience factor.

Hiring Dom Capers to run the defense was smart because the 4-3 wasn't working with the talent Green Bay had in-house. With B.J. Raji anchoring the middle, and Jenkins and Clay Matthews and new outside 'backer Aaron Kampman rushing, I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers won 10. But they'll have to run the gamut of a tough schedule the last month of the season (Baltimore, at Chicago, at Pittsburgh, Seattle, at Arizona) to make the playoffs.



15. Minnesota
It's hard to forecast because the offense is so spotty after Adrian Peterson, and I can only assume Percy Harvin will stay on the straight and narrow with so much at stake in his life and career, but they don't sell insurance for those kind of things. We don't know who will play quarterback for the Vikes. But either Sage Rosenfels or Favre would be better than Gus Frerotte. Eight times they scored 28 or more last year, mostly with Frerotte playing. The biggest benefit? Minnesota has the easiest first month in football: at Cleveland, at Detroit, San Francisco, Green Bay, at St. Louis. If they don't get out to a 4-1 start, you know something's wrong.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Rockmolder
15 years ago
Hah, commented on this on PP.O aswell. I think it's a pretty bad list.

I think that Indianapolis is really high. They're on the decline in my eyes and have no capable back-ups behind most of their starters.

Chicago, I'm not going into. Apparently the most hyped team is the best one or something, because I can't come up with any other logical analysis.

I think that the Texans are way to high there aswell. Steve Slaton is great, but what do they really have over lets say the Vikings or Packers? Most things about them are very mediocre.
15 years ago
He's part of the NFL hype machine. Chicago = big market. Cutler = high profile move. He's going to talk it up.
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Cheesey
15 years ago

He's part of the NFL hype machine. Chicago = big market. Cutler = high profile move. He's going to talk it up.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:


Yup.
Thats the way i see it.
Cutler hasn't proven he's a big time QB yet. Yet they hype him like he's something great.
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Orygunfan76
15 years ago
I don't believe squat King ever says but I do think Cutler will be damn good for years to come if healthy. I think Rodgers will also be one of the new breeds of the NFL'stop level qbs as well. I wouldn't put any NFC North team in the top ten and if I had to do so it would be Minnesota at exactly #10.
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Yerko
15 years ago
LINK 
There is the link for those not knowing where this is coming from.

Peter King is on crack! Bears @ #4? I mean really...I was dumbfounded and I heard this on the radio this morning. Yes, Bears fans are hooting about it (typical). I think everyone here in Chicago is high on Cutler-crack.

I am tired of seeing media spew garbage during the off-season. We are just as bored but that doesn't mean we can write dumb articles and make dumb predictions.

I said the one thing all top 10 teams have in common was a good quarterback...Matt Schaub?!?!?! Really.

This crap makes me hate the off-season...even more.
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dd80forever
15 years ago
I agree with the article but I wouldn't expect it would go over well on a Packers site
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porky88
15 years ago
The problem with the Bears and how they're viewed is people actually think they still have a good defense.

That was soooooo 2005 and 2006.

The defense struggled in 07 and got even worse last season.

How is it going to get better?

They don't have many young pieces in place. The DE's are a mess with Kampman and yes Cullen Jenkins in four games having more sacks combined than the Bears trio.

Good linebackers even though Urlacher is declining.

Terrible secondary though. I mean awful in comparisons to Green Bay's and Minnesota's.

I think the Bears could win the division because of Cutler and Forte, but No. 4 is obsurb. I would take the Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, and Falcons ahead of Chicago for sure.

That's just in the NFC.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

I agree with the article but I wouldn't expect it would go over well on a Packers site

"dd80forever" wrote:

OMG you're not a Packer fan!!!


:xcensoredx: :whipitgood:
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Cheesey
15 years ago

I agree with the article but I wouldn't expect it would go over well on a Packers site

"dd80forever" wrote:


"Negative Nelly" strikes again!!!

Just when we thought it was safe to enter a thread........."NEGATIVE NELLY is there to SAVE THE DAY! Peeing on our charcoal, so we NEVER have to worry about wild fires!
Raining on our parade, just to make SURE we don't get sun burned!!!

"Who WAS that masked man???? And WHY did he pee all over my charcoal???"

"Don't you KNOW!?!? That was "NEGATIVE NELLY!" He comes out to make SURE that NO positive thoughts might enter your Packer fan brain! THANK YOU NEGATIVE NELLY FOR MAKING US PROPERLY DREAD THE UPCOMING PACKER SEASON!!!"

(just messin' with ya DD80!!! All in jest!) :thumbleft:
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