Zero2Cool
7 hours ago
I was excited when I first saw he was at practice. I'm not so excited anymore. I believe the offense is starting to click so I am not sure what he can really add there. Yeah, he's a defensive genius, but if he's not thinking as our opponents DC, what good can he really be? Then the flip side of things is Jeff Hafley is in his first year as DC and now he has his bosses best-friend (elite defensive mind) poking around. How can you not look over your shoulder a little bit? Granted, Hafley was the DB coach for Saleh when he was DC, but human nature is human nature.

I'm just not sure much good can come from this. It feels like we have a good thing going on offense and defense and Saleh isn't going to help.

Now if he wants to poke his head into Special Teams, by all means, GET AFTER IT.

What do you think about this Robert Saleh helping offensive side or just him being around?
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bboystyle
5 hours ago
Hes not adding to the offense, hes contributing how a defense would counter our offense. MLF isnt gonna let him come in and change everything lol. That would be dumb and nuts. Plus MLF said he will be helping Jeff on D as well

"Packers head coach Matt LaFleur said Saleh will work with the Packers' offensive unit to bring a defensive perspective."

beast
5 hours ago

but if he's not thinking as our opponents DC, what good can he really be?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


But what if that's exactly what he's doing?

I assume he's looking at the offense from a defensive perspective and self scouting or trying to figure out what clues they're accidentally giving away, or how a defense would attack it and how it could be improved to stop how a defense would attack it.
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Zero2Cool
4 hours ago

Plus MLF said he will be helping Jeff on D as well

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


When was this said? I listened to the press conference and he seemed adamant that Saleh would only be on offense, not defense and that Jeff Hafley had to go through it as a 1st year DC. I could have missed something which is why I'm asking, nothing more.
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beast
4 hours ago
Bill Belichick, Kyle Shanahan and Matt LaFleur seem to deeply respect Robert Saleh, whom am I, or whom are we to disagree?

Saleh's big issue, is that like a lot of defensive coaches, he wasn't able to get the new modern offenses down, and while with the Jets, they never were able to get a great quality healthy OL.

LaFleur also did this when he brought in DB coach Aubrey Pleasant, and I think Robert Saleh would be considered a major upgrade to Pleasant.

So I don't see any downsides unless he's rubbing people the wrong way.

Looks like, in 2021, Saleh signed a 5 year deal, since coaches contracts are usually 100% guaranteed, he can slum it this year and next year, either coaching for nothing, or getting double pay by using a different title such as consultant or analyst.

I wouldn't mind if the Packers signed him to help out for 2025, doing whatever he wants, just stay out of LaFleur and Hafley way. But if he wants to learn the offense side of the ball more, let's go!

He was a TE coach in 2002. Been on defense since, and looks like mostly as a LB coach. But please figure out what the defenses are reading for the offenses.

I still remember in RT Tom's first year, him and Nijman were the OTs and the offense had more trouble against the Bears than I thought they should. And then some former OL pointed out you could easily tell if it was a run or pass play from their stances. Based on if their feet were square(horizontal) to each other, or if their feet were stacked more vertically.

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bboystyle
4 hours ago

When was this said? I listened to the press conference and he seemed adamant that Saleh would only be on offense, not defense and that Jeff Hafley had to go through it as a 1st year DC. I could have missed something which is why I'm asking, nothing more.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Sorry, it was fan babble on a unreliable source. I gotta recheck where i get info from.
civic
4 hours ago
I think MLF is just keeping his buddy Saleh’s profile relevant for the next hiring cycle for coaches.
blank
2 hours ago
I am glad he is around.

I like picking up veteran coaches who have seen a lot. I am not worried about how or what he is helping with. The more good football minds in the building, the better.
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Mucky Tundra
1 hours ago

I was excited when I first saw he was at practice. I'm not so excited anymore. I believe the offense is starting to click so I am not sure what he can really add there. Yeah, he's a defensive genius, but if he's not thinking as our opponents DC, what good can he really be? Then the flip side of things is Jeff Hafley is in his first year as DC and now he has his bosses best-friend (elite defensive mind) poking around. How can you not look over your shoulder a little bit? Granted, Hafley was the DB coach for Saleh when he was DC, but human nature is human nature.

I'm just not sure much good can come from this. It feels like we have a good thing going on offense and defense and Saleh isn't going to help.

Now if he wants to poke his head into Special Teams, by all means, GET AFTER IT.

What do you think about this Robert Saleh helping offensive side or just him being around?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



While there is a potential for a "too many cooks in the kitchen," I don't think there's anything to worry about since I think Saleh in the long run wants to run his own show and this is the equivalent of taking a job for pay while finetuning a resume while looking for a career (so to speak). For Saleh, it lets him keep his ear to the ground and stay in touch with what's going on around the league instead of just watching games from his couch and hearing everything 2nd hand.



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beast (7h) : Where if he's a consultant or analyst, he can technically double up pay.
beast (7h) : Saleh is an Offensive Consultant, not nessarily a coach... My guess is because the coaching label would mean his pay is off-set
bboystyle (20h) : Robert Saleh has been added to GBs coaching staff. Now he can stick it to Rodgers when he wins an SB here!
dfosterf (22h) : Leave him alone. Stop cutting him. You have no plan.
dfosterf (22h) : Losing him could get ugly real quick. Don't need that bs right now
wpr (23h) : As bad as he can be he is better than most options and he has practiced with the kicker and holder. A street guy might get 36 hours.
wpr (23h) : You are correct Mucky. This process makes the most sense. If they mess around and PS Orzech they might lose him.
Mucky Tundra (23-Oct) : You might have the right idea. Get Gute on the line, beast!
beast (23-Oct) : Yeah, but we could of simply signed LS Orzech to the PS, and gotten 3 weeks of him there.
Mucky Tundra (23-Oct) : Now you can get several game day elevations and sign him back to the active roster anytime in case of an injury
Mucky Tundra (23-Oct) : By briefly adding him to the roster and cutting him, it gets around the season ending IR and you can stash him on the PS
Mucky Tundra (23-Oct) : I believe either Ford needed to be added to the active roster or go on season ending IR
beast (23-Oct) : I don't understand that dance, released Orzech to keep Ford, just so you can release Ford to re-sign Orzech
Mucky Tundra (23-Oct) : DT Jonathon Ford released to make room for Orzech. Ford is expected to be signed to the PS
Mucky Tundra (23-Oct) : As expected the Packers re-sign LS Matt Orzech
Zero2Cool (23-Oct) : He spent the entire open portion of practice on the offensive side of the field.
Zero2Cool (23-Oct) : Robert Saleh in the back watching the Packers offense at practice today.
dfosterf (23-Oct) : I'm desperate too
dfosterf (23-Oct) : Possibly very good for my fantasy team. ff equivalent of a street free agent. Definitly worth cutting a dst I had laying around
Zero2Cool (23-Oct) : Chiefs are so desparate
beast (23-Oct) : Rumor: Titans will be trading WR Hopkins to Chiefs
Mucky Tundra (23-Oct) : @fordm The 49ers’ healthiest receiver right now was shot in the chest two months ago.
beast (22-Oct) : TE Robert Tonyan is a FA
beast (22-Oct) : Wonder if the Rams would get the Vikings injured 1st round rookie or not
Zero2Cool (22-Oct) : Rumors: The #Vikings and #Rams are in serious trade talks for QB Matthew Stafford, per @jacksettleman
packerfanoutwest (22-Oct) : I like the the Winter Warning Whites!
packerfanoutwest (22-Oct) : This was the first victory over a team with a winning record for the Packers.
wpr (22-Oct) : Isn't coffee a PES? Especially first thing in the morning.
Zero2Cool (22-Oct) : PED and PES ... guess they are different
beast (22-Oct) : I thought PED were a 4 game suspension. Also wonder if it's final or if he could still appeal it.
Zero2Cool (22-Oct) : Lions wide receiver Jameson Williams is facing a two-game suspension for violating the NFL’s Performance-Enhancing
Mucky Tundra (22-Oct) : JK Scott with a booming 36 yard punt to give the Cards the ball at their own 27
Mucky Tundra (22-Oct) : Bucs shooting themselves in the foot with turnovers
beast (21-Oct) : I know, but I'm wondering whom is the emergency guy behind Orzech?
Mucky Tundra (21-Oct) : beast, look at "Kicker, we need one. Still" thread. Zero has a post there explaining it
beast (21-Oct) : I wonder whom the emergency LS is
Mucky Tundra (21-Oct) : nevermind about the LS, just saw Zeros post
Mucky Tundra (21-Oct) : Got to work only to find there's no production! Woohoo!
Mucky Tundra (21-Oct) : Woah, who's our long snapper now?
Zero2Cool (21-Oct) : 49ers WR Brandon Aiyuk suffered a season-ending knee injury
Zero2Cool (21-Oct) : DL Jonathan Ford off injured reserve/designated for return and released LS Matt Orzech
Zero2Cool (21-Oct) : DL Ford is back, LS is cut
Zero2Cool (21-Oct) : Oh, I know. I was going to include that but limited characters
Mucky Tundra (21-Oct) : *being
Mucky Tundra (21-Oct) : Zero I was be facetious my man
Zero2Cool (21-Oct) : Each network wants viewers. (duh right?) and NFL can't favor one over the other if money is equal. NFL also wants views too.
Zero2Cool (21-Oct) : It's not so much rules, its variables.
Mucky Tundra (21-Oct) : Well then they need to change the rules/guidelines ;) :P
Zero2Cool (21-Oct) : I'm seeing lot of "smart" tweeter people being clueless
Zero2Cool (21-Oct) : Theres' lot of different rules/guidelines what not that go into it. not simple as pluck an move
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