Zero2Cool
a month ago
I was excited when I first saw he was at practice. I'm not so excited anymore. I believe the offense is starting to click so I am not sure what he can really add there. Yeah, he's a defensive genius, but if he's not thinking as our opponents DC, what good can he really be? Then the flip side of things is Jeff Hafley is in his first year as DC and now he has his bosses best-friend (elite defensive mind) poking around. How can you not look over your shoulder a little bit? Granted, Hafley was the DB coach for Saleh when he was DC, but human nature is human nature.

I'm just not sure much good can come from this. It feels like we have a good thing going on offense and defense and Saleh isn't going to help.

Now if he wants to poke his head into Special Teams, by all means, GET AFTER IT.

What do you think about this Robert Saleh helping offensive side or just him being around?
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bboystyle
a month ago
Hes not adding to the offense, hes contributing how a defense would counter our offense. MLF isnt gonna let him come in and change everything lol. That would be dumb and nuts. Plus MLF said he will be helping Jeff on D as well

"Packers head coach Matt LaFleur said Saleh will work with the Packers' offensive unit to bring a defensive perspective."

beast
a month ago

but if he's not thinking as our opponents DC, what good can he really be?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


But what if that's exactly what he's doing?

I assume he's looking at the offense from a defensive perspective and self scouting or trying to figure out what clues they're accidentally giving away, or how a defense would attack it and how it could be improved to stop how a defense would attack it.
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Zero2Cool
a month ago

Plus MLF said he will be helping Jeff on D as well

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


When was this said? I listened to the press conference and he seemed adamant that Saleh would only be on offense, not defense and that Jeff Hafley had to go through it as a 1st year DC. I could have missed something which is why I'm asking, nothing more.
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beast
a month ago
Bill Belichick, Kyle Shanahan and Matt LaFleur seem to deeply respect Robert Saleh, whom am I, or whom are we to disagree?

Saleh's big issue, is that like a lot of defensive coaches, he wasn't able to get the new modern offenses down, and while with the Jets, they never were able to get a great quality healthy OL.

LaFleur also did this when he brought in DB coach Aubrey Pleasant, and I think Robert Saleh would be considered a major upgrade to Pleasant.

So I don't see any downsides unless he's rubbing people the wrong way.

Looks like, in 2021, Saleh signed a 5 year deal, since coaches contracts are usually 100% guaranteed, he can slum it this year and next year, either coaching for nothing, or getting double pay by using a different title such as consultant or analyst.

I wouldn't mind if the Packers signed him to help out for 2025, doing whatever he wants, just stay out of LaFleur and Hafley way. But if he wants to learn the offense side of the ball more, let's go!

He was a TE coach in 2002. Been on defense since, and looks like mostly as a LB coach. But please figure out what the defenses are reading for the offenses.

I still remember in RT Tom's first year, him and Nijman were the OTs and the offense had more trouble against the Bears than I thought they should. And then some former OL pointed out you could easily tell if it was a run or pass play from their stances. Based on if their feet were square(horizontal) to each other, or if their feet were stacked more vertically.

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bboystyle
a month ago

When was this said? I listened to the press conference and he seemed adamant that Saleh would only be on offense, not defense and that Jeff Hafley had to go through it as a 1st year DC. I could have missed something which is why I'm asking, nothing more.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Sorry, it was fan babble on a unreliable source. I gotta recheck where i get info from.
civic
a month ago
I think MLF is just keeping his buddy Saleh’s profile relevant for the next hiring cycle for coaches.
blank
a month ago
I am glad he is around.

I like picking up veteran coaches who have seen a lot. I am not worried about how or what he is helping with. The more good football minds in the building, the better.
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Mucky Tundra
a month ago

I was excited when I first saw he was at practice. I'm not so excited anymore. I believe the offense is starting to click so I am not sure what he can really add there. Yeah, he's a defensive genius, but if he's not thinking as our opponents DC, what good can he really be? Then the flip side of things is Jeff Hafley is in his first year as DC and now he has his bosses best-friend (elite defensive mind) poking around. How can you not look over your shoulder a little bit? Granted, Hafley was the DB coach for Saleh when he was DC, but human nature is human nature.

I'm just not sure much good can come from this. It feels like we have a good thing going on offense and defense and Saleh isn't going to help.

Now if he wants to poke his head into Special Teams, by all means, GET AFTER IT.

What do you think about this Robert Saleh helping offensive side or just him being around?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



While there is a potential for a "too many cooks in the kitchen," I don't think there's anything to worry about since I think Saleh in the long run wants to run his own show and this is the equivalent of taking a job for pay while finetuning a resume while looking for a career (so to speak). For Saleh, it lets him keep his ear to the ground and stay in touch with what's going on around the league instead of just watching games from his couch and hearing everything 2nd hand.



“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”
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jdlax
a month ago

I was excited when I first saw he was at practice. I'm not so excited anymore. I believe the offense is starting to click so I am not sure what he can really add there. Yeah, he's a defensive genius, but if he's not thinking as our opponents DC, what good can he really be? Then the flip side of things is Jeff Hafley is in his first year as DC and now he has his bosses best-friend (elite defensive mind) poking around. How can you not look over your shoulder a little bit? Granted, Hafley was the DB coach for Saleh when he was DC, but human nature is human nature.

I'm just not sure much good can come from this. It feels like we have a good thing going on offense and defense and Saleh isn't going to help.

Now if he wants to poke his head into Special Teams, by all means, GET AFTER IT.

What do you think about this Robert Saleh helping offensive side or just him being around?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



My second thought when I heard this was actually about Hafley and how he would feel. First was about more good minds. I'm not worried.

Saleh gonna be working for free for Green Bay as he gets his ring, funded by NYJ. 🙃
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