Zero2Cool
7 months ago
I was excited when I first saw he was at practice. I'm not so excited anymore. I believe the offense is starting to click so I am not sure what he can really add there. Yeah, he's a defensive genius, but if he's not thinking as our opponents DC, what good can he really be? Then the flip side of things is Jeff Hafley is in his first year as DC and now he has his bosses best-friend (elite defensive mind) poking around. How can you not look over your shoulder a little bit? Granted, Hafley was the DB coach for Saleh when he was DC, but human nature is human nature.

I'm just not sure much good can come from this. It feels like we have a good thing going on offense and defense and Saleh isn't going to help.

Now if he wants to poke his head into Special Teams, by all means, GET AFTER IT.

What do you think about this Robert Saleh helping offensive side or just him being around?
UserPostedImage
bboystyle
7 months ago
Hes not adding to the offense, hes contributing how a defense would counter our offense. MLF isnt gonna let him come in and change everything lol. That would be dumb and nuts. Plus MLF said he will be helping Jeff on D as well

"Packers head coach Matt LaFleur said Saleh will work with the Packers' offensive unit to bring a defensive perspective."

beast
7 months ago

but if he's not thinking as our opponents DC, what good can he really be?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


But what if that's exactly what he's doing?

I assume he's looking at the offense from a defensive perspective and self scouting or trying to figure out what clues they're accidentally giving away, or how a defense would attack it and how it could be improved to stop how a defense would attack it.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
7 months ago

Plus MLF said he will be helping Jeff on D as well

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


When was this said? I listened to the press conference and he seemed adamant that Saleh would only be on offense, not defense and that Jeff Hafley had to go through it as a 1st year DC. I could have missed something which is why I'm asking, nothing more.
UserPostedImage
beast
7 months ago
Bill Belichick, Kyle Shanahan and Matt LaFleur seem to deeply respect Robert Saleh, whom am I, or whom are we to disagree?

Saleh's big issue, is that like a lot of defensive coaches, he wasn't able to get the new modern offenses down, and while with the Jets, they never were able to get a great quality healthy OL.

LaFleur also did this when he brought in DB coach Aubrey Pleasant, and I think Robert Saleh would be considered a major upgrade to Pleasant.

So I don't see any downsides unless he's rubbing people the wrong way.

Looks like, in 2021, Saleh signed a 5 year deal, since coaches contracts are usually 100% guaranteed, he can slum it this year and next year, either coaching for nothing, or getting double pay by using a different title such as consultant or analyst.

I wouldn't mind if the Packers signed him to help out for 2025, doing whatever he wants, just stay out of LaFleur and Hafley way. But if he wants to learn the offense side of the ball more, let's go!

He was a TE coach in 2002. Been on defense since, and looks like mostly as a LB coach. But please figure out what the defenses are reading for the offenses.

I still remember in RT Tom's first year, him and Nijman were the OTs and the offense had more trouble against the Bears than I thought they should. And then some former OL pointed out you could easily tell if it was a run or pass play from their stances. Based on if their feet were square(horizontal) to each other, or if their feet were stacked more vertically.

UserPostedImage
bboystyle
7 months ago

When was this said? I listened to the press conference and he seemed adamant that Saleh would only be on offense, not defense and that Jeff Hafley had to go through it as a 1st year DC. I could have missed something which is why I'm asking, nothing more.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Sorry, it was fan babble on a unreliable source. I gotta recheck where i get info from.
civic
7 months ago
I think MLF is just keeping his buddy Saleh’s profile relevant for the next hiring cycle for coaches.
blank
7 months ago
I am glad he is around.

I like picking up veteran coaches who have seen a lot. I am not worried about how or what he is helping with. The more good football minds in the building, the better.
Go Packers!!!!
Mucky Tundra
7 months ago

I was excited when I first saw he was at practice. I'm not so excited anymore. I believe the offense is starting to click so I am not sure what he can really add there. Yeah, he's a defensive genius, but if he's not thinking as our opponents DC, what good can he really be? Then the flip side of things is Jeff Hafley is in his first year as DC and now he has his bosses best-friend (elite defensive mind) poking around. How can you not look over your shoulder a little bit? Granted, Hafley was the DB coach for Saleh when he was DC, but human nature is human nature.

I'm just not sure much good can come from this. It feels like we have a good thing going on offense and defense and Saleh isn't going to help.

Now if he wants to poke his head into Special Teams, by all means, GET AFTER IT.

What do you think about this Robert Saleh helping offensive side or just him being around?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



While there is a potential for a "too many cooks in the kitchen," I don't think there's anything to worry about since I think Saleh in the long run wants to run his own show and this is the equivalent of taking a job for pay while finetuning a resume while looking for a career (so to speak). For Saleh, it lets him keep his ear to the ground and stay in touch with what's going on around the league instead of just watching games from his couch and hearing everything 2nd hand.



“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”
UserPostedImage
"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers
jdlax
7 months ago

I was excited when I first saw he was at practice. I'm not so excited anymore. I believe the offense is starting to click so I am not sure what he can really add there. Yeah, he's a defensive genius, but if he's not thinking as our opponents DC, what good can he really be? Then the flip side of things is Jeff Hafley is in his first year as DC and now he has his bosses best-friend (elite defensive mind) poking around. How can you not look over your shoulder a little bit? Granted, Hafley was the DB coach for Saleh when he was DC, but human nature is human nature.

I'm just not sure much good can come from this. It feels like we have a good thing going on offense and defense and Saleh isn't going to help.

Now if he wants to poke his head into Special Teams, by all means, GET AFTER IT.

What do you think about this Robert Saleh helping offensive side or just him being around?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



My second thought when I heard this was actually about Hafley and how he would feel. First was about more good minds. I'm not worried.

Saleh gonna be working for free for Green Bay as he gets his ring, funded by NYJ. 🙃
Fan Shout
wpr (17h) : Hollywood Henderson said Bradshaw “is so dumb, he couldn't spell 'cat' if you spotted him the C and an A.”
Mucky Tundra (17h) : Cooper stock=BUY BUY BUY
Mucky Tundra (17h) : Also notes he’s playing with more confidence.
Mucky Tundra (17h) : @AndyHermanNFL MLF says there was a time last year where Cooper was at 220 pounds. Now he’s at 240 and still flying around.
Mucky Tundra (17h) : And don't even get me started on Frank Caliendos "impersonations"
Mucky Tundra (17h) : I got tired of them being circle jerks with them overlaughing at each others jokes.
Zero2Cool (17h) : It used to be must watch TV for me. now it's "meh" maybe to hear injury update
Mucky Tundra (17h) : I haven't watched the pregame shows in years and I don't feel like I've missed a thing
Zero2Cool (17h) : Love says knee affected him all season, groin injury didn't help matters.
Zero2Cool (17h) : I used to enjoy him on FOX Pregame. Now it's like a frat party of former Patriots.
Zero2Cool (17h) : LaFleur on Watson: “Christian is doing outstanding. I would say he’s ahead of schedule.”
Martha Careful (18h) : Bradshaw is a dumb ass cracker. I am so tired of his "aw shucks" diatribe. He should shrivel up and go away.
buckeyepackfan (21h) : He wad all butt hurt because Aaron duped the media saying he was immunized.
buckeyepackfan (21h) : Bradshaw needs to retire. He's been ripping on Rodgers ever since the covid crap. He was all hury
Zero2Cool (28-May) : Terry Bradshaw doesn't want Rodgers in Pittsburgh lol wow
Zero2Cool (27-May) : one day contract, which he also feels is pointless, but if Packers came to him, he would
packerfanoutwest (27-May) : Aaron Rodgers talks possibility of retiring with Packers, just another rumor
dfosterf (27-May) : Go watch 2001
Zero2Cool (26-May) : 1984
dfosterf (26-May) : That movie sent a chill through many. 1968.
dfosterf (26-May) : "Open the pod bay doors, HAL"
buckeyepackfan (25-May) : Haven't we all seen thus movie? It doesn't end well!! Lol
Zero2Cool (25-May) : lol Anthropic’s new AI model turns to blackmail when engineers try to take it offline
dfosterf (25-May) : Claude Opus 4
dfosterf (25-May) : AI system resorts to blackmail when its developers threaten to take it offline
beast (22-May) : Colts Owner Jim Irsay has passed away
Zero2Cool (21-May) : Well, emailing should work now. After not working for almost a year. Oops.
Zero2Cool (21-May) : Brotherly Shove did not get enough votes.
Zero2Cool (20-May) : lol our email hasn't worked in months. 7 pages of unverified users
Zero2Cool (20-May) : MySpace Screaming Lord Byron ... Brett Favre.
Zero2Cool (19-May) : Packers have signed first-round pick Matthew Golden, leaving second-round tackle Anthony Belton as their only unsigned draft pick
beast (19-May) : Supposedly he has to take his image, and name off of it... but otherwise could keep selling wine if he wanted to.
Zero2Cool (19-May) : he giving up his win business?
beast (19-May) : Speaking of Woodson, sounds like he'll be a minority owner (0.1%) of the Browns
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Zero, regarding Woodson, that'd why I find the timing with Williams peculiar
dfosterf (15-May) : Ryan Hall y'all does a great job of tracking thesr
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Fear not!! I planned to do 33mi bike ride tomorrow morning, so ... yeah
Zero2Cool (15-May) : We got some dark clouds and nasty winds right bout now.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Madison they had hail 4pm.
dfosterf (15-May) : Sure looks like these tornadoes are headed towards Green Bay
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Woodson of Charles fame was reluctant and then loved it. that didn't really come out until post career
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : IE "We bought into the Bears and they let us down, we have no choice to seek alternatives"
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Or that Williams and his family are preparing an exit ramp if they don't like how things are going in a few years
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Either Williams thought it would make him look good (reluctant but then embraces the city and franchise)
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : I can only assume that the Williams camp agreed to cooperate with that article tells me 2 things
dfosterf (15-May) : Ya. They are in a great mood
Zero2Cool (15-May) : I should visit again
dfosterf (15-May) : ChiCity Sports entering freakout mode due to Caleb and his dad not wanting him to go there
Zero2Cool (15-May) : "He's looking really good out there," Derrick Ansley said of Kalen King. Adds that he's been playing inside and out.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Him saying he doesn't have one to give haha
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
4m / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

27-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

27-May / Random Babble / Martha Careful

24-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

24-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

21-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

21-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

20-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

16-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.