Zero2Cool
7 months ago
Brian Gutekunst said he doesn't want to use all 11 2024 NFL Draft selections. I am going to infer that means he wants to package some picks to move up in the draft AND/OR trade some for a veteran.

Additionally, the GM also says he wants to draft QB's. Packers have their QB1 for the next 10 years, can we agree on that? Let's agree on that. We just agreed. Thank you. Ok. Our QB2 is older than QB1. I don't think the Packers are settled with Sean Clifford as QB2.

My question for you all is this. What do you think about the Packers using Day 3 pick to move up versus using that pick on a QB?

I'm leaning towards using those picks on athletic freaks and/or character issue guys. Day 3 picks just don't move the needle too much in trading up anyway.

I'm not really laying out this question too well as I keep typing here, haha.

Day 3 pick used on QB
OR
Day 3 pick used to move up handful of spots?
UserPostedImage
7 months ago
Spencer Rattler QB - South Carolina via Oklahoma

Rattler was once the projected No. 1 overall pick back in 2022 before Caleb Williams stole his job at Oklahoma. In a cruel twist of fate, Williams is now the projected No. 1 overall pick while Rattler is a likely Day 2 prospect in the same class. However, Rattler was able to get his college career back on track after transferring to South Carolina. He passed for 3,186 yards, 19 touchdowns and eight interceptions for the Gamecocks last season. Rattler isn’t exactly a dual threat but he has impressive pocket awareness that should help him at the NFL level.

Spencer Rattler Scouting Report
Strengths
[list]
  • Has near-elite composite arm talent, with high-end arm strength and angle freedom.
  • Can generate ample velocity with a flick of his wrist and drive outside the numbers.
  • Possesses a lightning-quick release and can torque his hips instantly on his drop-back.
  • With his arm elasticity, layers pace and touch on throws and keeps pace off-platform.
  • Can adjust his release point to arc throws into tight buckets while keeping velocity.
  • Solid creator with springy short-area agility, change-of-direction, and evasion ability.
  • Smooth off-platform thrower who can keep his shoulders level and adjust arm angles.
  • Has the corrective mechanical twitch to snap into phase with his feet ahead of releases.
  • Synergetic rotational passer with good mechanical congruence and control.
  • Generally accurate QB who can effectively lead short and intermediate WRs for RAC.
  • Has the poise to stand in the pocket and rifle passes to the middle with pressure coming.
  • Able to keep his eyes up on the scramble drill and quickly trigger on open receivers.
  • Has shown to progress through reads and anticipate route breaks in succession.
  • Can accurately process WR leverage on the boundary and throw his receivers open.
  • Has generally good discretion and checkdown awareness as a decision-maker.[/list]

  • Weaknesses
    [list]
  • Is a smooth and nimble short-area mover but doesn’t have elite burst or speed.
  • Doesn’t have the raw creation ability to be a consistent rushing threat in an offense.
  • Sometimes bails clean pockets a bit prematurely, inviting chaos in off-script situations.
  • Undisciplined pocket habits show up at times, drifting back too far against the rush.
  • Tendency to retreat backward can stall out velocity drive and elevation downfield.
  • Sometimes fails to place intermediate and seam passes to receiver leverage.
  • Conversely, sometimes drifts into the line and limits his space to evade the rush.
  • Sometimes commits to congested lanes when trying to evade, working into a corner.
  • Is occasionally late to sense backside pressure and has an inconsistent internal clock.
  • Will at times force throws to covered receivers when encountering interior pressure.
  • Could do a better job of leading his eyes with his feet to quicken response time.
  • Field vision can run hot and cold, causing missed windows and hesitation.
  • [*]Will turn 24 years old in September of his rookie season.[/list]
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    beast
    7 months ago
    Are we giving up on the Penn State QB we just drafted already?

    Since the last couple of CBA limited practice and off-season, less and less guys are developing from low on the rosters especially at positions like QB where it's hard to get them reps.

    Of course we just got a new assistant QB coach that was a veteran QB.


    I think quantity swings matter, ask Gute if he expected CB Valentine to play as well as he did... you miss out on surprises like that, and I don't think you move that far up quality wise with trading that pick up.



    But Gute seems to have a history of using a 3rd or more commonly a 4th to trade up in the first.


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    dfosterf
    7 months ago
    We also have a third string quarterback
    He has a fantastic pedigree and production for where he is on this depth chart.
    Go look!
    He tore up the USFL in 2023.
    The list is too long and would bore the draft qb folk
    Maybe look at how he rolled in our preseason, also
    He can play.
    We all saw it.

    I love Spencer Rattler if he falls. The problem for his advocates is we already have him, in so many ways.
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