a year ago
Buckeyepackfan wrote

I like this draft, traded up to 7 to get an elite T
Used next 4 picks to add depth on DL
and shore up the defensive backfield.
Traded down a couple of times to add depth
on offense.


7 Joe Alt OT | Notre Dame A
62 Kris Jenkins DL | Michigan A
91 Javon Bullard S | Georgia A+
93 Josh Newton CB | TCU A+
132 Cole Bishop S | Utah B+
167 Marist Liufau LB | Notre Dame A+
175 Beaux Limmer IOL | Arkansas A+
203 Andrew Coker OT | TCU B+
208 Brennan Jackson EDGE | Washington State A+
215 Luke McCaffrey WR | Rice A+
225 Julian Pearl OT | Illinois B+
242 Carson Steele RB | UCLA B+
249 Jabari Small RB | Tennessee B+
250 Spencer Sanders QB | Mississippi A+

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 

These picks would be spectacular

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beast
a year ago
I'm not sure it'd be as easy to trade into the top 15 picks as some of these drafts make it out to be.

Like Packers had to way over pay just to go up to get Watson in the 2nd.... your moving up easily in the top 15 unless it's only 3 spots or less.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

I'm not sure it'd be as easy to trade into the top 15 picks as some of these drafts make it out to be.

Like Packers had to way over pay just to go up to get Watson in the 2nd.... your moving up easily in the top 15 unless it's only 3 spots or less.

Originally Posted by: beast 


I was curious.

Packers sent both second-round picks (No. 53, No. 59) to the Minnesota Vikings to move up 19 spots and get Christian Watson at 34.

Draft Chart Value
34-560
53-370
59-310

680 for 560 for a fleecing of 120 points or basically mid to late 4th round pick. Vikings owe us dammit.
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Mucky Tundra
a year ago

I'm not sure it'd be as easy to trade into the top 15 picks as some of these drafts make it out to be.

Like Packers had to way over pay just to go up to get Watson in the 2nd.... your moving up easily in the top 15 unless it's only 3 spots or less.

Originally Posted by: beast 



These trade simulators tend to struggle when it comes to trading and their proper value. One time I did draft on one simulator that I traded down every opportunity I could. Ended up with enough picks to field an entirely new roster and then some.

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buckeyepackfan
a year ago
Went back and checked.
I traded 25th(rnd 1), 41st(rnd 2), 88th(rnd 3) and a 2025 4th rnd pick.

That gave me the value I needed to jump to 7.

Having that extra 2nd and 3rd rnd pick makes it easier to give them up, especially when the last 2 drafts have seemed to have worked out well.

I know Gute loves his draft picks, but at some point drafting 12 or 13 guys just seems to be overkill.
what do I know?
I do these drafts just to get a little familiarity with the players coming out.
For instance, had no idea C, McCaffery's younger brother is in the draft.
Former QB, turned WR, has the lineage, could be a steal?
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
dhazer
a year ago

I'm not sure it'd be as easy to trade into the top 15 picks as some of these drafts make it out to be.

Like the Packers had to way overpay just to go up to get Watson in the 2nd.... your moving up easily in the top 15 unless it's only 3 spots or less.

Originally Posted by: beast 


Perfect example they are saying if the Redskins want to move up 1 spot with the Bears from #2 to #1 they would have to give up their #2 a 2nd round pick and next year's 1st. If the Bears play it right they could end up with 2 extra 2nds this year and 2 extra 1st's next year and still get Harrison Jr.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
TheKanataThrilla
a year ago


I do these drafts just to get a little familiarity with the players coming out.
For instance, had no idea C, McCaffery's younger brother is in the draft.
Former QB, turned WR, has the lineage, could be a steal?

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I liked that some of your picks were guys that I always end up picking.

Not sure about you, but I was looking for a 7th round flyer at WR. McCaffery would be pretty interesting. I am guessing his name may drive him up the board, like I tend to want to draft Frank Gore Jr. when I see him available just because of the name.
Zero2Cool
a year ago
I even got to fleece the Vikings!
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beast
a year ago
I think I'd be very happy with this draft.

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1.25 CB Arnold
Elite run defender for a CB whom also is great in zone coverage. Played mostly outside, but has played some slot role as well and seems like he might have even more potential to grow.

2.41 OL Barton
Three years at LT but he has the size, skill and versatile to play all 5 OL spots, because he's not 6'5" and not the most athletic, he'll probably be getting the, "He can't stay at OT in the NFL" verbal treatment, but so did Bakhtiari and Tom. Barton has very strong hands, I think he can play all five spots in the NFL.

2.57 DL Sweat
A fairly athletic 6'4" 360lb DT, do I need to say more? Despite everyone thinking NT, he didn't play the A gap much in college, mainly at the B gap, so he probably has some learning to do, but Packers want athletic guys that can pass rush, and they NEED run stoppers. Sweat didn't get many sacks or QB hits, but he did get a good bit of pressures and getting the QBs to step back and give the Edge Rushers a chance is a huge thing.

3.88 WR Wilson
At 6'6" 235lb Wilson is a big WR, as you can image he's a very good run blocker (for a WR), and has very long limbs that makes a bigger target window and has pretty good body control. Though, he does need to improve his drops, but they did draft WR Wicks whom also had drops issues. I sorta see Wilson as a lighter version of Musgrave. In a scheme that uses versatility, Wilson might be chess piece WR/TE tweener.

3.91 CB Jones
Jones has gotten a lot of snaps 4 years straight, mostly at outside CB, but this final year he was their slot CB and he did amazing in that role. Most slot CBs are small, and Gute doesn't like small, but Jones is almost 6' and has given up no touchdowns the last two years.

4.125 RB Wright
5'10" 210lb, Wright is a bit of a different RB, in that he seems to be a both a speed RB and a North-South runner, in that he's not going to do a lot of extra east-west dancing, I guess his style would sort of be like a RB Ryan Grant slasher type.


4.135 OT Foster
Not the most athletic, but he's long, smart and mentally calm, after being a long term starter LT in the SEC. And while he can hold his own, his technique could use some improvements and he has the potential to get even better. He's not a run gap mover type, better in pass protection and zone blocking.


I probably shouldn't of made the second trade, so I could have gotten two Safeties at 217 and 219.

6.219 SS Oladapo
Three year starter, that has seemingly improved each year. A bit over 6'1" 215lbs, he's a good sized Safety and physically. While he is very good one direction athletic, he's not the most athletic in direction chsnges. Has lots of snaps Deep, in the Box and in the Slot, it seems like closer to the line of scrimmage works better for him, so not as the deep FS role.

7.222 LB Magee
Mainly looking for a coverage ILB here to backup ILB Walker in case of an injury, and Magree seemed to score really high in both coverage and run defense. Though one major downside, and might take him off Gute's list is that he's only 225lbs. With that said, maybe LB Jontrey Hunter from Georgia State would be more likely, with similar coverage grade but at 240 lbs.

7.224 RB Davis
Very small school, with talented OL but man among boys. 6' 220lb whom has a combined MORE than 3,000 yards and 30 TDs in TWO years. So he was Superman at that level, but how does he do against guys with more equal talents? I don't know, but it might be worth a 7th to find out.

7.232 TE Wiley
6'6" 260lb one trick pony, but he's good at the trick and it's not what you think. Use his speed/size by sending him deep. Don't think about asking him to block, at least not until he improves at.it, he falls off way too quickly.

7.248 RT Jones
I'm a bit doubtful Jones falls this far, 4 year starter with a heck lot of physical potential including size, length, athletic and good mean mauling attitude. It's just that he has some bad technique or bad habits of getting too high in his pads and lunging after defenders which can be taken advantage of. But there is usually some OL coach saying he's got all the traits, I can fix the habits, even though that's probably not true. But I'd certainly take a flier on trying to develop him out of his bad habits late in the draft. Heck, I might even let him compete for starting RG. He's 6'5" 320lbs, and can to try to work on his pads level and lunging at OG. He's got the potential to stay at OT, but needs to have better good consistency.

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a year ago
Only Buckeyepackfan drafted a QB...he is thinking ahead
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