umair_010
a year ago
Where did I disrespect you? I'm just as upset as you are. Right now we suck and we shouldn't be as bad as we are.
nerdmann
a year ago
28 played well. No complaints.

This QB is young. He will develop. Until then, maybe we'll win once in awhile.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
go.pack.go.
a year ago

I don't think we're saving him for later, I think he's hurt now and they felt they couldn't play him... they wanted to play him probably more than we did.

Originally Posted by: beast 



After the game, MLF said we have 12 more games and it wasn’t worth the risk to play him. And that Aaron Jones was really fighting to play. The Packers are notoriously conservative with injuries and I think in this case it has costed us a couple games.
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beast
a year ago

After the game, MLF said we have 12 more games and it wasn’t worth the risk to play him. And that Aaron Jones was really fighting to play. The Packers are notoriously conservative with injuries and I think in this case it has costed us a couple games.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 


Sounds like I was wrong.

Not getting the INTs that were clearly there have cost us at least two games. Falcons we dropped like 4, and Raiders we dropped just one, but another was perfectly set up if the DB played it correctly, and both the Raiders one came on the same drive that ended up as a Raiders TD.

If this team simply caught all the INTs that hit their hands, then fans would be praising the Barry. He's giving his DBs opportunities.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

I also am pretty sure this team has something against Aaron Jones. They are entirely too conservative with some of these injuries. Won’t need to save him for later if we keep losing to teams like this.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 


I'm pretty sure there's a reason Aaron Jones doesn't get 20-25 touches a game. He's not physically able to handle that workload. Hell, he's not even able to handle the small workload. He's always dinged up. Yet, WE fans will cry GIVE AARON JONES MORE TOUCHES. Maybe it's time to accept Aaron Jones isn't a workhorse and is more of a show pony that you trot out once in awhile.
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beast
a year ago

I'm pretty sure there's a reason Aaron Jones doesn't get 20-25 touches a game. He's not physically able to handle that workload. Hell, he's not even able to handle the small workload. He's always dinged up. Yet, WE fans will cry GIVE AARON JONES MORE TOUCHES. Maybe it's time to accept Aaron Jones isn't a workhorse and is more of a show pony that you trot out once in awhile.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


So sign 2024 FA RB Derrick Henry?
Or draft Wisconsin's Braelon Allen?


Playfully asking, not serious asking you to have the answer (unless someone wants to try to answer).
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bboystyle
a year ago

Sounds like I was wrong.

Not getting the INTs that were clearly there have cost us at least two games. Falcons we dropped like 4, and Raiders we dropped just one, but another was perfectly set up if the DB played it correctly, and both the Raiders one came on the same drive that ended up as a Raiders TD.

If this team simply caught all the INTs that hit their hands, then fans would be praising the Barry. He's giving his DBs opportunities.

Originally Posted by: beast 


No shot ur blaming the defense for this 2-3 record...the offense is the problem. Its been the problem dating back to last year.
beast
a year ago

No shot ur blaming the defense for this 2-3 record...the offense is the problem. Its been the problem dating back to last year.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


No, not blaming the defense, but lots of people want to blame Barry for the defense not being EVEN better. I'm just noting that the defense would be EVEN better if the players weren't dropping so many INTs that hit their hands.

Barry needs at least another dominant DT to make this scheme work to full effect, but he's correctly giving the DBs more help and more opportunities on the backend.

But this defense will continue to go up and down based on opponents OLs without more DL talent improvement (I was hoping, thinking Wyatt would break out, but hasn't seemed to happen as much as I was hoping).



I felt like the defense in 2021 really shut the door on a number of opponents. In 2022, I feel like their was in fighting between Joe Barry and Jerry Gray and the players, especially the DBs took Gray's side and they were not on the same.page, at least not as much as they should of been and that cost the team early.


But on offense, it's simply the scheme needs a lot of talented blocking and so Gute has used a lot of draft resources on OL and TEs and for whatever reason, they have not ended in successful selection.

To keep the list short, all of Gute's 3rd round selections... Myers and Newman. Also it doesn't help that Bakhtiari and Jenkins aren't playing up to their salary.

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bboystyle
a year ago

No, not blaming the defense, but lots of people want to blame Barry for the defense not being EVEN better. I'm just noting that the defense would be EVEN better if the players weren't dropping so many INTs that hit their hands.

Barry needs at least another dominant DT to make this scheme work to full effect, but he's correctly giving the DBs more help and more opportunities on the backend.

But this defense will continue to go up and down based on opponents OLs without more DL talent improvement (I was hoping, thinking Wyatt would break out, but hasn't seemed to happen as much as I was hoping).



I felt like the defense in 2021 really shut the door on a number of opponents. In 2022, I feel like their was in fighting between Joe Barry and Jerry Gray and the players, especially the DBs took Gray's side and they were not on the same.page, at least not as much as they should of been and that cost the team early.


But on offense, it's simply the scheme needs a lot of talented blocking and so Gute has used a lot of draft resources on OL and TEs and for whatever reason, they have not ended in successful selection.

To keep the list short, all of Gute's 3rd round selections... Myers and Newman. Also it doesn't help that Bakhtiari and Jenkins aren't playing up to their salary.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I feel like the major flaw with Barry's defense is his choice to go soft zone when playing more aggressive works. Some of these guys are lined up so far off their man that its uncalled for. Quite baffling if u ask me. Verdict still out on the run D as well.
Zero2Cool
a year ago

I feel like the major flaw with Barry's defense is his choice to go soft zone when playing more aggressive works. Some of these guys are lined up so far off their man that its uncalled for. Quite baffling if u ask me. Verdict still out on the run D as well.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


Jaire Alexander said he likes playing off. Jaire also said his new coach (Greg Williams) has been working with him trying to get him to play closer to the WR. So, if you're referencing the distance the CB's are from WR's, it seems like the CB's are the ones doing that and the coaches aren't holding them accountable for what they are "coaching".

I have never much cared for more than five yard cushions. And its' been around the Packers throughout the last three defensive coordinators.
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