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After the stink bomb 💣 we saw tonight its pretty clear the Lions are just going to run away in this division. We are on pace to lose to the bears. This team just doesn't have it together.
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a year ago
Embarrassing. I know the team is banged up but it’s like we come out flat every week. Part of that is a young team but part of that is also coaching/scheming.

I also am pretty sure this team has something against Aaron Jones. They are entirely too conservative with some of these injuries. Won’t need to save him for later if we keep losing to teams like this.
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After the stink bomb 💣 we saw tonight its pretty clear the Lions are just going to run away in this division. We are on pace to lose to the bears. This team just doesn't have it together.

Originally Posted by: umair_010 


I'm pretty sure Vegas was saying it was pretty clear before the season even started the Lions were going to run away with the division and they put their money where their mouth was.

Packers simply don't have the talent/depth on the lines to compete, at least not in these schemes.
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I also am pretty sure this team has something against Aaron Jones. They are entirely too conservative with some of these injuries. Won’t need to save him for later if we keep losing to teams like this.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 


I don't think we're saving him for later, I think he's hurt now and they felt they couldn't play him... they wanted to play him probably more than we did.
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I'm pretty sure Vegas was saying it was pretty clear before the season even started the Lions were going to run away with the division and they put their money where their mouth was.

Packers simply don't have the talent/depth on the lines to compete, at least not in these schemes.

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Yea the difference is that we had a chance tonight. With a win we are only one game back. One player single handedly destroyed our whole offense. Is it talent or poor coaching? Apart of me is glad Rodgers is gone because he's too gifted to waste his time here.
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They practically said hey we will let you win this game and we still screwed it up. This is one of the most upsetting games I have watched in a long time.
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Apart of me is glad Rodgers is gone because he's too gifted to waste his time here.

Originally Posted by: umair_010 

If this team isn't good enough for him or you, then fuck off already!

Clearly the Jets fans are happy to have him this season, so go join them.
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If this team isn't good enough for him or you, then fuck off already!

Clearly the Jets fans are happy to have him this season, so go join them.

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Is it good enough for you? No need to be disrespectful.
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The jets have the same record as us with a qb who can't even ht a barn board.
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Is it good enough for you? No need to be disrespectful.

Originally Posted by: umair_010 


If there is no need to be disrespectful, then why are you being disrespectful?

Rodgers is gone because he's too gifted to waste his time here.

Originally Posted by: umair_010 

Seem like you want to throw shit but don't want any of the shit thrown back at you

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Where did I disrespect you? I'm just as upset as you are. Right now we suck and we shouldn't be as bad as we are.
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28 played well. No complaints.

This QB is young. He will develop. Until then, maybe we'll win once in awhile.
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a year ago

I don't think we're saving him for later, I think he's hurt now and they felt they couldn't play him... they wanted to play him probably more than we did.

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After the game, MLF said we have 12 more games and it wasn’t worth the risk to play him. And that Aaron Jones was really fighting to play. The Packers are notoriously conservative with injuries and I think in this case it has costed us a couple games.
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After the game, MLF said we have 12 more games and it wasn’t worth the risk to play him. And that Aaron Jones was really fighting to play. The Packers are notoriously conservative with injuries and I think in this case it has costed us a couple games.

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Sounds like I was wrong.

Not getting the INTs that were clearly there have cost us at least two games. Falcons we dropped like 4, and Raiders we dropped just one, but another was perfectly set up if the DB played it correctly, and both the Raiders one came on the same drive that ended up as a Raiders TD.

If this team simply caught all the INTs that hit their hands, then fans would be praising the Barry. He's giving his DBs opportunities.
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a year ago

I also am pretty sure this team has something against Aaron Jones. They are entirely too conservative with some of these injuries. Won’t need to save him for later if we keep losing to teams like this.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 


I'm pretty sure there's a reason Aaron Jones doesn't get 20-25 touches a game. He's not physically able to handle that workload. Hell, he's not even able to handle the small workload. He's always dinged up. Yet, WE fans will cry GIVE AARON JONES MORE TOUCHES. Maybe it's time to accept Aaron Jones isn't a workhorse and is more of a show pony that you trot out once in awhile.
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I'm pretty sure there's a reason Aaron Jones doesn't get 20-25 touches a game. He's not physically able to handle that workload. Hell, he's not even able to handle the small workload. He's always dinged up. Yet, WE fans will cry GIVE AARON JONES MORE TOUCHES. Maybe it's time to accept Aaron Jones isn't a workhorse and is more of a show pony that you trot out once in awhile.

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So sign 2024 FA RB Derrick Henry?
Or draft Wisconsin's Braelon Allen?


Playfully asking, not serious asking you to have the answer (unless someone wants to try to answer).
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a year ago

Sounds like I was wrong.

Not getting the INTs that were clearly there have cost us at least two games. Falcons we dropped like 4, and Raiders we dropped just one, but another was perfectly set up if the DB played it correctly, and both the Raiders one came on the same drive that ended up as a Raiders TD.

If this team simply caught all the INTs that hit their hands, then fans would be praising the Barry. He's giving his DBs opportunities.

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No shot ur blaming the defense for this 2-3 record...the offense is the problem. Its been the problem dating back to last year.
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No shot ur blaming the defense for this 2-3 record...the offense is the problem. Its been the problem dating back to last year.

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No, not blaming the defense, but lots of people want to blame Barry for the defense not being EVEN better. I'm just noting that the defense would be EVEN better if the players weren't dropping so many INTs that hit their hands.

Barry needs at least another dominant DT to make this scheme work to full effect, but he's correctly giving the DBs more help and more opportunities on the backend.

But this defense will continue to go up and down based on opponents OLs without more DL talent improvement (I was hoping, thinking Wyatt would break out, but hasn't seemed to happen as much as I was hoping).



I felt like the defense in 2021 really shut the door on a number of opponents. In 2022, I feel like their was in fighting between Joe Barry and Jerry Gray and the players, especially the DBs took Gray's side and they were not on the same.page, at least not as much as they should of been and that cost the team early.


But on offense, it's simply the scheme needs a lot of talented blocking and so Gute has used a lot of draft resources on OL and TEs and for whatever reason, they have not ended in successful selection.

To keep the list short, all of Gute's 3rd round selections... Myers and Newman. Also it doesn't help that Bakhtiari and Jenkins aren't playing up to their salary.

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No, not blaming the defense, but lots of people want to blame Barry for the defense not being EVEN better. I'm just noting that the defense would be EVEN better if the players weren't dropping so many INTs that hit their hands.

Barry needs at least another dominant DT to make this scheme work to full effect, but he's correctly giving the DBs more help and more opportunities on the backend.

But this defense will continue to go up and down based on opponents OLs without more DL talent improvement (I was hoping, thinking Wyatt would break out, but hasn't seemed to happen as much as I was hoping).



I felt like the defense in 2021 really shut the door on a number of opponents. In 2022, I feel like their was in fighting between Joe Barry and Jerry Gray and the players, especially the DBs took Gray's side and they were not on the same.page, at least not as much as they should of been and that cost the team early.


But on offense, it's simply the scheme needs a lot of talented blocking and so Gute has used a lot of draft resources on OL and TEs and for whatever reason, they have not ended in successful selection.

To keep the list short, all of Gute's 3rd round selections... Myers and Newman. Also it doesn't help that Bakhtiari and Jenkins aren't playing up to their salary.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I feel like the major flaw with Barry's defense is his choice to go soft zone when playing more aggressive works. Some of these guys are lined up so far off their man that its uncalled for. Quite baffling if u ask me. Verdict still out on the run D as well.
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a year ago

I feel like the major flaw with Barry's defense is his choice to go soft zone when playing more aggressive works. Some of these guys are lined up so far off their man that its uncalled for. Quite baffling if u ask me. Verdict still out on the run D as well.

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Jaire Alexander said he likes playing off. Jaire also said his new coach (Greg Williams) has been working with him trying to get him to play closer to the WR. So, if you're referencing the distance the CB's are from WR's, it seems like the CB's are the ones doing that and the coaches aren't holding them accountable for what they are "coaching".

I have never much cared for more than five yard cushions. And its' been around the Packers throughout the last three defensive coordinators.
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