dfosterf
a year ago

Some folks saying Packers doing AJ Dillon wrong, but really. NO! AJ Dillon is on final year in contract. He goes to Colts, he's the starter and gets the best chance to really cash in as much as he can.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Excellent point, but now both he and Green are going to have to answer multiple "How you feel" questions about the Packers willingness to trade him, along with Gute, etc.

In an unconsummated trade, not a fan of this. I get Taylor's skills, and I get Irsay as a moron, but you might be looking at two morons here.

Did Taylor hurt his back in the off season and because it's not in his interest to expose that, when the team said he did?

Anyone impressed with how he repeatedly called in sick for the last month...or personal issues, whatever..

Anyone thrilled about the fact that he had a minor clean up on his ankle in April or whenever, and is still/now on the PUP?

Those that are on our fantasy league ought to go back and read the timeline on him on Edge (Free included insight, quite valuable for this subject)

If this trade ever came close to fruition, I want the best back physician in the world there for his physical.

Somebody was lying about that.
beast
a year ago

Packers I guess offered AJ Dillon and 3rd.
Colts reportedly countered with AJ Dillion, Christian Watson and a 1st

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Are you saying you read that somewhere (if so where?) and you guess it might be true? Or you guess as in it's your personal guess?

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Zero2Cool
a year ago

Excellent point, but now both he and Green are going to have to answer multiple "How you feel" questions about the Packers willingness to trade him, along with Gute, etc.

In an unconsummated trade, not a fan of this. I get Taylor's skills, and I get Irsay as a moron, but you might be looking at two morons here.

Did Taylor hurt his back in the off season and because it's not in his interest to expose that, when the team said he did?

Anyone impressed with how he repeatedly called in sick for the last month...or personal issues, whatever..

Anyone thrilled about the fact that he had a minor clean up on his ankle in April or whenever, and is still/now on the PUP?

Those that are on our fantasy league ought to go back and read the timeline on him on Edge (Free included insight, quite valuable for this subject)

If this trade ever came close to fruition, I want the best back physician in the world there for his physical.

Somebody was lying about that.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



I am not sure if the trade came close or not. Brian Gutekunst today said AJ Dillon is going to be on the this team moving forward regardless of their interest in Jonathan Taylor. It wasn't word for word, but sounds like AJ Dillon was not in the trade package offered. But, even if he was, why would the GM say it publicly?

As for the calling in sick or what not. It's believed to be agent driven to get him a new deal. Also similar to how a lot of guys have these dings that keep them out of practice. So, it was just a way to avoid practice while driving home he wants a deal.

As for the back issue. Here's what he Tweeted about that. Again, no idea how true any thing is here. Oh, Jason Wilde said for Stephen Holder to say Packers had "legitimate interest" that means the Packers made a reasonable offer, not the "conditional 7th rounder" that we often joke about. Apparently Holder is really well known in Colts circle according to Wilde.

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beast
a year ago

Excellent point, but now both he and Green are going to have to answer multiple "How you feel" questions about the Packers willingness to trade him, along with Gute, etc.

In an unconsummated trade, not a fan of this. I get Taylor's skills, and I get Irsay as a moron, but you might be looking at two morons here.

Did Taylor hurt his back in the off season and because it's not in his interest to expose that, when the team said he did?

Anyone impressed with how he repeatedly called in sick for the last month...or personal issues, whatever..

Anyone thrilled about the fact that he had a minor clean up on his ankle in April or whenever, and is still/now on the PUP?

Those that are on our fantasy league ought to go back and read the timeline on him on Edge (Free included insight, quite valuable for this subject)

If this trade ever came close to fruition, I want the best back physician in the world there for his physical.

Somebody was lying about that.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 


I'm not sure if RB Taylor is really injured, or just staying healthy by staying away from football and avoiding fines by claiming he's hurt. Since the new rules fine players a LOT from holding in... and as PFT talked about, RB Taylor and his agent seem to have made a mistake by not holding out in March or the off-season.

But I could see them just wanting to get the hell away from the druggie and back stabber Irsay, whom attempted to stab QB Payton Manning in the back of all people, despite Peyton always being 100% professional publicly (at least when he's not yelling at Jeff Saturday, or other players or making fun of his brothers). Irsay also was supposedly demanding everyone admit QB Andrew Luck was alright, when clearly everyone else knew he had a shoulder injury.

Irsay has a history of turning on his star players, especially with injuries and that and the RB pay issue seems to have gotten Taylor wanting to escape.





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Zero2Cool
a year ago
"AJ is apart of this team and he was going to be regardless" at the 20:00 mark

He also mentions that teams will use Packers for leverage.



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dfosterf
a year ago
When you look at the trade counter offer by the Colts, the drug accusations have far more credibility.

I think that RV he likes at the end of the field is stuffed with either crack, fentanyl or cranq.

It's the only semi-logical explanation for what is going on in Indianapolis.
dfosterf
a year ago

"AJ is apart of this team and he was going to be regardless" at the 20:00 mark

He also mentions that teams will use Packers for leverage.


Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



We are rubes.
Zero2Cool
a year ago

When you look at the trade counter offer by the Colts, the drug accusations have far more credibility.

I think that RV he likes at the end of the field is stuffed with either crack, fentanyl or cranq.

It's the only semi-logical explanation for what is going on in Indianapolis.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



That counter offer is not supported by any reliable source. I didn't get to link it because someone came into my office and I had to do work-work things. It was one of those "NFL Rumors" Tweeter accounts.

The Packers getting involved is absolutely brilliant. Anyone says otherwise, they do not understand football and the need for weapons on offense.
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dfosterf
a year ago

That counter offer is not supported by any reliable source. I didn't get to link it because someone came into my office and I had to do work-work things. It was one of those "NFL Rumors" Tweeter accounts.

The Packers getting involved is absolutely brilliant. Anyone says otherwise, they do not understand football and the need for weapons on offense.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


That is your opinion. My opinion is that the Packers would have been better off staying away from Jonathan Taylor trade talks.
Zero2Cool
a year ago

That is your opinion. My opinion is that the Packers would have been better off staying away from Jonathan Taylor trade talks.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 


No, it is not an opinion. How could anyone possibly think ... I can't even believe this is a debate. Wow. You are going to say adding one of the top RB's in the league who is just 24 years old is not going to improve the Packers? Is this what you're saying? I would LOVE to hear the rationale behind this because I am not even remotely close to understanding this.

If you're saying the trade compensation required to land Taylor would provide the Packers a net LOSS, I can absolutely get behind that. But if we're talking AJ Dillon and 2024 3rd round pick. You do that all day.

Or maybe you're saying Taylor is a nutcase diva who regardless of the talent isn't worth being on the team. I can also get behind that too.
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