Zero2Cool
a year ago

For months following the trade of Rodgers to the Jets, fans in particular have been quick to criticize the move claiming that when Rodgers took over in 2008, everyone knew what they had in him. They recall players in the locker room praising the up-and-coming Rodgers to quell concerns of the fans.

Pete Dougherty, however, does not remember the media being as hyped or quick to praise Rodgers as they are towards Love now. Heller asked him to compare the amount of buzz surrounding Love now to the things the media was saying about Rodgers when he took over for Favre. Dougherty responded:

“I don’t remember ever feeling that way [that Rodgers was lighting it up in camp]. I wouldn’t say great, but I always ask other reporters what they think. I don’t remember anyone ever saying through camp of ’08, ‘Yeah, I think this guy is going to be really, really good.’ I don’t remember anyone saying that.

“The only thing I remember is by halfway through the season, when they extended Rodgers’ contract, I think it was after seven or eight games, I remember thinking, ‘Yeah, if I were them, I would do this too. I think he’s been pretty good; he’s going to be a real starter in this league.’

“But even then, I never would have predicted Hall of Fame for him.”



This fits what I remember and why I've been commenting on YouTube videos with these clowns talking as if everyone knew Aaron Rodgers would become good/great/elite. Because they didn't. If there was such great confidence and such great comments being espoused about Rodgers, there would have been far less outcry of the Packers trading away Brett Favre. The (some) fans went ballistic in their anger towards Rodgers, even though he did NOTHING wrong.

It's just annoying hearing these pundits, even some of the local ones, talk like it was OBVIOUS Rodgers was going to be good just by what we saw in training camp and preseason. And then add in the Cowboys performance. And with that, they add there must be somethign wrong with Jordan Love because they "aren't hearing the same hype about Love as we did with Rodgers". It wasn't until several games into the season where we all kind of went ohh ... we might have a good one here. And then during the 2009 seaosn it was 'yeah we struck gold'.

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Mucky Tundra
a year ago
I don't remember anyone hyping up Rodgers like what is going on with Love now. Fans dogpiled on him constantly and I don't remember any national media being behind him. Made all the worse as Favre still had partisans/old guard in Wisconsin media that gladly stirred the pot against Rodgers and/or TT.  Even after showing he belonged in 2008, it still wasn't enough for some.

@2:10:35  Rodgers scrambles on 2nd & 10 to make it 3rd & 1. Collinsworth rips into Rodgers for not diving head first even though he's being pursued by a Bears player and another two have him dead to rights and cites Elways spin dive at the end of Super Bowl XXXII as example of what Rodgers should have done. 
 
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nerdmann
a year ago
All the rednecks loved Bert.

You'd see his number painted on barns all over the place.
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Mucky Tundra
a year ago

All the rednecks loved Bert.

You'd see his number painted on barns all over the place.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



How could they not? Just a good ol' boy from Mississippi having fun with the mentality of a riverboat gambler! that was endlessly parroted by announcers when he did something that was ill-advised. Throwing ropes from the pocket? Boring!
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dfosterf
a year ago
This place was a semi-horror show with all the Favre can do no wrong crowd. 

We had to have multiple moderators that were very active to try and keep posters off each other's throats. Zero had to step away a bit because he would get blamed for being pro one side or another. 

Pack93z,  myself,  Nonstopdrivel rode herd on the bullshit vitriol that posters that wanted to give Rodgers a chance endured from the Favre zealots. It was kind of ugly, even in here.

Nowadays, we have our occasional blow-ups between posters, but nothing like that. 
It was almost hourly back then.

We got Wayne now to keep our asses in line!

 
Mucky Tundra
a year ago

This place was a semi-horror show with all the Favre can do no wrong crowd. 

We had to have multiple moderators that were very active to try and keep posters off each other's throats. Zero had to step away a bit because he would get blamed for being pro one side or another. 

Pack93z,  myself,  Nonstopdrivel rode herd on the bullshit vitriol that posters that wanted to give Rodgers a chance endured from the Favre zealots. It was kind of ugly, even in here.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



I came here after Rodgers was entrenched as a Super Bowl winning QB and it was so mellow save for a few people. Interesting to hear that quiet PackersHome was rocked by the Favre Divorce.

Also amusing to think of Nonstopdrivel as a responsible mod. 
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dfosterf
a year ago
He was actually a very good moderator, and a very early adopter of Aaron Rodgers. He did not let that color his moderation, imo
He is also a very early adopter of Jordan Love. 

He is also an interesting fellow, lol

 
Zero2Cool
a year ago

Zero had to step away a bit because he would get blamed for being pro one side or another.  

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 


This is the predicted outcome when you try to see both points of view. Hence why I try to stay away from the political world. In this world (maybe always has been like this) it seems if you're not extreme in your supporting view, then you're the enemy.

I also lost my shit because the media kept twisting things around and fans were running amok with it as if it were fact. I would prove it false and then I was an idiot sheep or whatever. Only to be vindicated by each item years later. I am so thankful the departure of Aaron Rodgers went as smooth as it did. I don't know if my last remaining hair follicles would have survived!!

Also amusing to think of Nonstopdrivel as a responsible mod. 

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 


Rourke is always good people in my book. I disagree with him on a lot, but I enjoy his perspective because it forces me to think differently.
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Mucky Tundra
a year ago

He was actually a very good moderator, and a very early adopter of Aaron Rodgers. He did not let that color his moderation, imo
He is also a very early adopter of Jordan Love. 

He is also an interesting fellow, lol

 

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



He is quite the amusing. We've had a number of interesting discussions in chat after games are finished about this and that. He's one of the few people I've come across that understands the importance of aesthetics in football uniforms. 



Rourke is always good people in my book. I disagree with him on a lot, but I enjoy his perspective because it forces me to think differently.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I've always liked him but he always struck me as too capering with a touch of a gadfly to be a mod. 
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dfosterf
a year ago
Well, we were ALL as moderators moderated by Shawn, aka Pack93z. His level headedness was an example to all. 

He and I were members of P.P.O. in addition to here.

What's PPO, you might ask. 🤔 

Purple Pride . ORG

THE largest Vikings discussion board at the time, by far.

My role? Obnoxious shit stirring Packer fan asshole

His role? (Also a complete total Packer fan)

MODERATOR

On the (again) biggest Vikings discussion board. 

Those velociraptors allowed and supported a Packer fan to moderate their discussions.
That's how even-keeled he was.

I miss him here, though we have got some cameo appearances.

Just wanted to give a very good man a shout out 
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