The 13th pick in the 2023 NFL draft is ...

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

a year ago

"It is time." Who do you think will be the player selected by GB in the first round of the draft. OR do you think they will trade back? Personally I don't think Gute worked to get the 13th pick to then trade it away. We shall see.

My guess is they go defense yet again. Outside of Love being selected in the first round of 2020 GB has taken a defensive player every year since Nick Perry in 2012. That will hold true to form again in 2023. (No pick in the 1st round of 2017.) Even in 2019 and 2022 when they had two picks they took two defensive players.

My guess is they will look to the Edge.
Myles Murphy Clemson
Will McDonald Iowa State
Lukas Van Ness Iowa
I'm taking Murphy and hope the Clemson Curse isn't real.

Strengths:
Dangerous pass rusher
Instinctive
Repertoire of pass-rushing moves
Excellent hands
Speed to power
Can dip around the corner
Can overpower offensive tackles and tight ends
Uses hands and feet at same time
Strong hand-slap to shed blocks
Pass-rushing awareness
Displays some natural pass-rushing skills
Quality get-off
Quick off the edge
Can close on the quarterback
Creates splash plays
Athletic
Strong, thick build
Powerful bull rush
Excellent strength to shed blocks
Has enough speed to beat tackles around the corner
Stout in run defense
Sets the edge
Can hold his ground at the point of attack
Gap integrity
Impressive change of direction for a thick defender
Upside
It's rare that GB finds a player who has this many strengths.

Weaknesses:
Lacks a little dog
Plays too finesse at times
Big kid on the playground who doesn't want to hurt anyone
Toys with blockers instead of dominating like he could
I think most of his weakness can be overcome with good coaching.

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earthquake
Member

a year ago

I think you're right about picking edge. I'm going with Lukas Van Ness.

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Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

a year ago

"With the 13th pick in the 2023 NFL draft, the Green Bay Packers select Broderick Jones, tackle, from the University of Georgia. The New England Patriots are now on the clock."

Broderick Jones

Overview
Ultra-athletic tackle prospect with the size, length and potential to develop into a plus starter on the left side. Jones’ frame and technique both are in the developmental phase. His entry into block fits can be a little disjointed. He needs to improve his punch accuracy and timing to make the most of his length in pass protection. Jones is very talented at working into space and landing a block to help spring the running game. He has the nimble feet to mirror or recover against the rush. Jones isn’t a finished product, but the physical and athletic gifts allow for a projection as a good, long-time starter.
Strengths
Former high school basketball player with premium athletic qualities.
Drives hands into defender with upward strike.
Rips outside hand through pads to corral and move opponent.
Should be able to make all the blocks for zone and power.
Body control to adjust to moving targets.
Has length necessary to improve punch timing.
Recognizes twist attempts quickly.
Possesses loose hips and quick feet for recoveries.
Weaknesses
Less than two full seasons of starting experience at left tackle.
Needs to keep his chin tucked and back flat in protection.
Punch comes from outside angles and is slow to stick the rusher.
Gives early ground when challenged by power rush.
Doesn’t fit up run blocks in one, fluid motion.
Will need to improve play strength as a pro.
Tends to duck head and lose sight into first contact.

Taking an OT in the first didnt seem appealing to me a month ago as I wanted them to go another direction+felt like the offensive line needed to work with what it had. Then I remembered Bahk is probably gone after this year as well as Njiman. Went with Jones since he fits the Gutekunst type of player (high upside, athletic, needs a year of development etc). Gives the team options next year if Bakh and Njiman are gone. If Myers plays well, you can line up Jones+ZT at OT with Jenkins at LG. If Myers shits the bed you can bump Jenkins to LT with Jones at RT with ZT at C.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

a year ago

If they go edge, it has to be one of those "War Daddy" players who are closer to 300 than they are to 250. There's a few of them who should be available.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

a year ago

"With the 13th pick in the 2023 NFL draft, the Green Bay Packers select Broderick Jones, tackle, from the University of Georgia. The New England Patriots are now on the clock."

Broderick Jones

Taking an OT in the first didnt seem appealing to me a month ago as I wanted them to go another direction+felt like the offensive line needed to work with what it had. Then I remembered Bahk is probably gone after this year as well as Njiman. Went with Jones since he fits the Gutekunst type of player (high upside, athletic, needs a year of development etc). Gives the team options next year if Bakh and Njiman are gone. If Myers plays well, you can line up Jones+ZT at OT with Jenkins at LG. If Myers shits the bed you can bump Jenkins to LT with Jones at RT with ZT at C.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

I don't have a problem with this pick. They are not as desperate as it seems. next year Elgton Jenkins is moving out to T.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

a year ago

If they go edge, it has to be one of those "War Daddy" players who are closer to 300 than they are to 250. There's a few of them who should be available.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Those boys are called DT not DE/Edge.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

a year ago

I don't have a problem with this pick. They are not as desperate as it seems. next year Elgton Jenkins is moving out to T.

Originally Posted by: wpr

I thought we liked Zach Tom at LT and thought we realized that the LG should be playing LG and we should stop freaking moving him around?!?!?

I like taking OL at 13th overall though because it fits my desire of having a player you can start for 10 years.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

a year ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

"We" don't get to decide. The front office has never said that they plan to keep Jenkins at LG forever. Least I don't recall hearing them say it.

beast
Select Member

a year ago

I'm thinking it'll be (in no order) Edge, OT or receiver over the middle (ie slot WR or TE).

Edge Murphy reminds me of Gary in some ways, so I could absolutely see Gute wanting him.

But I've been sort of thinking this draft will be more about loading up on offense and letting the offense grow together in this rebuilding year and be ready to hit the floor running in 2024.

Also, getting in front of the Patriots is just smart, as they need an OT, and often are interested in TE and S should the Packers be looking there, and of the Packers Pre-Draft visits that are projected to go 1st round it was mostly TEs, with an OT or two.

But normally Gute has stayed with positional value in the first round.

It's long been said that the most important positions are QB, OT, Edge and CB.... with more recently decade adding TE and S as a closing in 2nd tier.

Gute has never drafted an OT and TE, but has the rest... and until last year (drafting ILB and DT) didn't go outside that list. Though, the ILB is a coverage guy, so basically a 245 lb Safety... and the DT is a penetrator pass rusher.

But all this, and I'm thinking OT or TE...

OT Darnell Wright, TennesseeTE Darnell Washington, Georgia[color=var(--bs-body-color)]TE Dalton Kincaid, Utah

Gute seems to chase highest potential hoping they can fully develop, so I'm going out in a limb and saying TE Washington. He's not as prepared as other TEs, but his raw physical potential is absolutely huge.[/color]

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

a year ago

#10

I think you're right about picking edge. I'm going with Lukas Van Ness.

Originally Posted by: earthquake

I was torn between Van Ness and Murphy.
Charlie at Walter football loves Murphy. JJ Lahey doesn't.

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