Mucky Tundra
2 years ago

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”
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"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers
beast
2 years ago

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 


With all due respect to this reporter, it doesn't make sense... 

For the Packers, the smart plays would to be either 

1) Not let any team talk with Rodgers until a trade framework was put in place OR 

2) Let multiple interested teams talk with Rodgers and get a bidding war going...


So either the Packers are being stupid... more teams were allowed to talk with Rodgers, or there was at least a trade framework agree upon.

My guess is this reporter sources just don't know about it but there is one in place.
 
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beast
2 years ago
Looking around the internet, there seems to be two different rumors going on.

1) Packers and Jets a have everything set, just waiting on Rodgers to agree to keep playing and play for the Jets.

2) Rodgers is already on board and Packers and Jets have an agreement mostly in place, but they're arguing over one remaining thing, money, as the Jets want the Packers to pay a portion of Rodgers salary, and both sides have remained firm in their stances 
 
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago
Here is a walkthrough of contract.



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porky88
2 years ago
Hey guys! It’s been a minute.

I have no clue what the compensation will be. There are too many variables and a lot of wishful thinking coming from media and fans. Nevertheless, here's some random thoughts on a trade package.

The Packers are sitting on a terrible contract with Rodgers. The Jets can help bail them out of this contract, assuming they convince Rodgers to restructure. On Pat McAfee earlier in the year, Rodgers indicated he's open to doing that under the right circumstances. I have to think that factors into any compensation. I know some have reported that executives are torn on whether that matters, but the salary cap is a big deal for the Packers as they begin to build a younger team around Jordan Love. In other words, the Jets have leverages in that regard.

Woody Johnson has made it clear they want Rodgers and the Jets need a veteran QB. I can’t imagine the owner of the team being satisfied with Jimmy Garropolo as the starting QB because the Packers insisted on a first and the Jets wouldn’t move off an offer of a second. The Jets have been too open about their interest. Anything less than Rodgers in New York is disappointing, especially if the Jets finish outside the playoffs next year. Furthermore, pressure is on Joe Douglas and Robert Saleh to produce a winner. If they fail to make the playoffs in 2023, they could be without a job. To me, the Packers have leverage in that aspect of a potential trade.

The value of quarterbacks is just astronomical. Matt Ryan netted a 3rd round pick a year ago. Rodgers is a more valuable commodity than Ryan was. Matt Stafford and Russell Wilson have all netted major packages with first round picks included. I think the deal that could serve as a framework is the Carson Wentz from Eagles to Colts trade. The Eagles received a first-round pick for Wentz because he played 75% of the snaps in 2021.

A lot of people considering other players being thrown into the deal. Adding David Bakhtiari and/or Darnell Savage complicates matters. Why would the Packers trade an all-pro left tackle? Remember how important Chad Clifton was in those early Rodgers years? That’s exactly what Bakhtiari can be to Jordan Love.

A lot of insiders are stating this year’s draft is not as strong as year’s past. If the Jets feel that way, then they may be even more aggressive about parting with a first.

I would ask for two firsts if I were the Packers. They have nothing to lose by asking. The Jets will rightfully bulk at that due to Rodgers’ age. I would then try to settle on the 2023 1st and a conditional pick in 2024. I would set the conditions as:

  • 1st round pick – Rodgers plays in the Super Bowl
  • 2nd round pick – Rodgers play 75% of the snaps
  • 3rd round pick – Rodgers plays between 0% and 75% of the snaps
  • No pick – Rodgers does not play for the Jets in 2024

Jets net Rodgers and a 2023 pick back in return. I suspect a 3rd or 4th.  
 
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dfosterf (1h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (1h) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (3h) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (3h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (3h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (3h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (3h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (3h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (3h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (3h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (3h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (3h) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (3h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (3h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (4h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (5h) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (5h) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (5h) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
Zero2Cool (21h) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.
dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move
dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately
Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.
dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.
Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb
wpr (9-Apr) : yay
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland
Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'
Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Will there be a tracker on the ball or something?
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : uh oh
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