Zero2Cool
2 years ago
Oh boy. This will never happen barring injury.

He actually makes some good points. He says Packers should start Jordan Love if they lose to Cowboys. Reason is to put Jordan Love on show. If he sucks, top 10 pick to draft next QB. If he is good, you trade him for young cheap talent to help Rodgers. And says Rodgers can look like the good guy, good teammate by saying it's best for them to see what Love can do while saving his body from hits. 

That makes sense. I mean, if he busts an ACL, crap right?




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nerdmann
2 years ago
Could we have gotten less than 3 INTs against the Lions with Love? 

Love is close to ready, not necessarily straight up ready. But all he has to do is hit the open guy. 
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nerdmann
2 years ago
Bear in mind. All we'd have had to do it take the FGs in these games and we would be 5-4 right now. 

Will Love permit Matt to adhere to fundamentals? 
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nerdmann
2 years ago



“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
dyeah_gb
2 years ago
I like everything except why the hell would you trade Love if he performs well?  If he proves he is the better QB, he should start.  It sucks to bench a 50 million investment but that is the consequence of what is looking more and more like a terrible contract.
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yooperfan
2 years ago
Just bench Rodgers and be done with it!
He's washed up!
I'm getting to the point where I don't even want to watch the Packers games with him behind center..
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

I like everything except why the hell would you trade Love if he performs well?  If he proves he is the better QB, he should start.  It sucks to bench a 50 million investment but that is the consequence of what is looking more and more like a terrible contract.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



I would speculate the belief is that Rodgers hasn't fallen off the wagon completely after winning two NFL MVP's along with that wicked contract he has making it hard to exercise that 5th year option on Jordan Love. So, trade Love for cheap talent, draft another QB and freaking hope for the damn best. That's what I got from his rambling, which I don't disagree with and almost actually agree with the premise.
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dyeah_gb
2 years ago

I would speculate the belief is that Rodgers hasn't fallen off the wagon completely after winning two NFL MVP's along with that wicked contract he has making it hard to exercise that 5th year option on Jordan Love. So, trade Love for cheap talent, draft another QB and freaking hope for the damn best. That's what I got from his rambling, which I don't disagree with and almost actually agree with the premise.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yup, the actions of  drafting Love and extending Rodgers are a contradiction. Pack either messed up with the former or the latter.  The question is how best to salvage the screwup.  The more I think about it, the more it speaks to why they probably won't play Love at all.  My guess is that Murphy and Gute care more about looking bad then what benefits the team. Might as well keep Rodgers out there.  Or maybe you put in Love and just run vanilla for the draft pick and ruin Love's career but I don't want to speculate too far. 

 
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Yup, the actions of  drafting Love and extending Rodgers are a contradiction. Pack either messed up with the former or the latter.  The question is how best to salvage the screwup.  The more I think about it, the more it speaks to why they probably won't play Love at all.  My guess is that Murphy and Gute care more about looking bad then what benefits the team. Might as well keep Rodgers out there.  Or maybe you put in Love and just run vanilla for the draft pick and ruin Love's career but I don't want to speculate too far.  

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



Drafting a QB in 2020 made sense. Aaron Rodgers had a very bad broken collarbone in 2017, and in 2018 and 2019 was not tilting games in our favor as he once did. And being at the age of 36, the signs were there that he was closer to be done. 

After seeing Jordan Love in practice through 2020 and 2021 and extending Aaron Rodgers to that massive contract? 😬 That says they don't believe Love is there yet, or they believe Love will just be happy backing up Rodgers throughout his rookie contract. 

Based on what Gutekunst has done, I really don't think he gives a damn about looking bad. If he did care, the Packers wouldn't have released a 4th round pick after just one season.

I'll walk that back a little and say I do agree with you though that barring some cleverly worded story, they won't bench Rodgers in favor of Love due to the optics.
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Yup, the actions of  drafting Love and extending Rodgers are a contradiction. Pack either messed up with the former or the latter.  The question is how best to salvage the screwup.  The more I think about it, the more it speaks to why they probably won't play Love at all.  My guess is that Murphy and Gute care more about looking bad then what benefits the team. Might as well keep Rodgers out there.  Or maybe you put in Love and just run vanilla for the draft pick and ruin Love's career but I don't want to speculate too far. 

 

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



They needed Aaron until Love was ready. Aaron was going balls out trying to maximize his leverage over the team. If only he was that balls out in the playoffs,, maybe they wouldn't have decided he can't get it done in the playoffs, and they wouldn't have had to draft his replacement. 
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