Kevin, I agree that commiting a crime shouldn't cost you your life. And if a criminal complies with the police, they will get due process. If they resist, a cop has to make a split second decision. If he pauses, HE might be the one ending up dead. The idiot in Kenosha was warned over and over by the cops to surrender. They kept screaming at him to give himself up. They even tazed him, which had no effect. The video shows that. He got shot because he refused to give himself up.

And Floyd, I saw in TV a mural on a huge wall showing him with angel wings, and talking how good he was. No one is perfect, but trying to pass off how he was some kind of innocent victim and making cops out to be devils sickens me.

And Martha, don't be sorry to bring up the subject. Ignoring it doesn't solve anything. I've been called horrible names before for stating how I feel on this subject. Yet the person that called me those names didn't give any counter points to show how what I said wasn't true.
Just hate for me for saying it.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

I apologize for even bringing up the subject of Kaepernick. I didn’t know it would lead here.

I enjoy this site immensely, even when you boys make fun of me, because it takes my mind off all of the divisiveness and hate which seem to permeate every single political or economic debate in society today.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 

No worries. I feel this conversation has been civil. If it goes sideways, well, I will have to triple your membership fees!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Kevin! I didn't mean you about the name calling! It was back when the Floyd thing happened, and I said pretty much what I said now. A member here called me a "piece of s**t". I don't remember who it was. But that was all they said.
And the cop that knelt on Floyd's neck deserves to be held accountable for Floyd's death. He should have stopped once Floyd was cuffed.
Like you said, 99% of the cops are great at their jobs, and are painted as bad because of the less then 1% of bad cops.
I heard someone say once, "if someone tries to break into your home, who are you going to call? The drug dealer down the street, or the police?"
The police are NOT the bad guys.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

He's not kidding, Martha! He QUADRUPLED my membership fees when I once disagreed with him!
(Dang TIRANT!!!)
Uh oh......I bet he will raise my fees again!

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

Your broke ass is so far behind, I'd have to take your kidney to even try breaking even!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

So was giving Kap a tryout, simply a PR stunt post Gruden comments and maybe NFL stunt, where Goodell has been known to pressure teams for PR favors.

Originally Posted by: beast 

You can't argue that there are 15 QBs better then Watson when he lasted played. You could argue there were 25 QB better than Kap when he lasted played. They're not in the same ball park of talent.

Originally Posted by: beast 

That being said, there clearly were not 64 QBs better than Kap, just no owner wanted that drama for a guy that's clearly not a QB1. Also again, the system he would fit bet with was out of the NFL, except the Ravens, whom reportedly we're going to sign him, with Ray Lewis pushing for it, until Kap's GF or Wife, for whatever stupid read went to social media and started attacking the Ravens owner...

Originally Posted by: beast 

So yes Kap was blackballed, but I think it's fair to say, his GF/wife also caused some of that... the system he beat fit going out of fad caused some of that, and maybe most importantly, the media focusing so much on QBs and Kap's unclear QB1 status caused a hell lot of that, as teams don't want drama for a backup role, as we have also seen with Tim Tebow. Nor a starting role player like Punter Marquette King.

Originally Posted by: beast 

So it's the norm for teams to reject players whom create extra media noise that could be seen as distracting when the players isn't a clear star.

Originally Posted by: beast