Zero2Cool
2 years ago

The more I look at Zero's final 53 the more I realize how wrong he is about his projections for the final 53.

Dafney on the 53 over Tyler Davis at TE?

And is he listing Cobb as our WR1? Cobb has a chance to not even make the roster. At best he is WR4.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



The more I look at your final 53, oh, wait, you haven't the stones to share such a list. You do say it's my projection then come at me about WR1 as if it's a depth chart? Weak.

Article comes out recently about Tyler Davis and how Packers think they really have something and suddenly you're confused on Dafney over Davis. Hindsight sure is your crown.

In your reply you say it's a final 53 projection, yet you try coming at me as if it's a depth chart? Numbered lists are used to identify players per position. Nothing more. I left myself open for a lot of ridicule posting a 53 in freaking MAY, I'll be damned if I'm taking depth chart shots too here!!!
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Cheesey
2 years ago
This is like watching a tennis match......it's Zero2cools time now.
Wow! I was too slow!
PNs turn now!🤪
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

This is like watching a tennis match......it's Zero2cools time now.
Wow! I was too slow!
PNs turn now!🤪

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I WILL DESTROY AND CONQUER ALL WHO OPPOSE MY BRILLIANT FIFTY-THREE PROJECTION!!! MUWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


I have spoken.
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PackersNation
2 years ago

The more I look at your final 53, oh, wait, you haven't the stones to share such a list. You do say it's my projection then come at me about WR1 as if it's a depth chart? Weak.

Article comes out recently about Tyler Davis and how Packers think they really have something and suddenly you're confused on Dafney over Davis. Hindsight sure is your crown.

In your reply you say it's a final 53 projection, yet you try coming at me as if it's a depth chart? Numbered lists are used to identify players per position. Nothing more. I left myself open for a lot of ridicule posting a 53 in freaking MAY, I'll be damned if I'm taking depth chart shots too here!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Wasn't any article that got me on Tyler Davis over Dafney. It was his play last season in limited action. I did hear Gute say: "We think we really have something in him", but that was in a presser and not a article.

Don't take offense to people replying to your posted 53 projection. That's why you posted it, to get a discussion going, no?

You already knew I disagree with Jonathan Ford on your 53 and Samori Toure not. Why did todays comment trigger you? I'm sorry.

I have other projections where I think you are off base, but I will save those. I don't want you to get you more upset. Thought this was a group of Packers fans discussing football. Not, let's get mad everytime PackerNation implies I'm wrong about something. We are all wrong a lot, that's why we aren't on the Packers payroll.

This is just entertainment.
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Wasn't any article that got me on Tyler Davis over Dafney. It was his play last season in limited action. I did hear Gute say: "We think we really have something in him", but that was in a presser and not a article.

Don't take offense to people replying to your posted 53 projection. That's why you posted it, to get a discussion going, no?

You already knew I disagree with Jonathan Ford on your 53 and Samori Toure not. Why did todays comment trigger you? I'm sorry.

I have other projections where I think you are off base, but I will save those. I don't want you to get you more upset. Thought this was a group of Packers fans discussing football. Not, let's get mad everytime PackerNation implies I'm wrong about something. We are all wrong a lot, that's why we aren't on the Packers payroll.

This is just entertainment.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



You have nothing to be sorry for, my bad for coming off too strong. What other projections do I have that are off-base in your opinion? I want to know what others think and add/remove. That's the fun in this! Saying things like "the more I realize how wrong he is" is just off-putting. You can disagree with what I laid down, but you cannot say it's wrong. It's an opinion. I'm free to have mine (even if I'm full of shit), that doesn't mean it's wrong.

Just don't ever tell me I think Cobb is a damn WR1, lol. I haven't ever considered him a WR1 at any point in his career. Them fighting words!

I actually had a hard time picking 25 guys for defense. I had to use the Packers roster lineup to fill it out, haha.


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Zero2Cool
2 years ago
Packers will have Tariq Carpenter start his NFL career at the inside linebacker position.


Whatever, Matt LaFleur!! I said he's a Safety, so he is a SAFETY!!!
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PackersNation
2 years ago

Packers will have Tariq Carpenter start his NFL career at the inside linebacker position.


Whatever, Matt LaFleur!! I said he's a Safety, so he is a SAFETY!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



He a full-time special teamer once September hits. So, him being in the ILB room this summer really won't mean much.

Word is that Barry is going to use even less of the hybrid safety/ILB types like Carpenter in the defense now. More cats like Dre and Quay Walker at both ILB spots.

So yeah, don't expect to see Carpenter on the grass much this season at ILB after camp and preseason games.
beast
2 years ago

He a full-time special teamer once September hits. So, him being in the ILB room this summer really won't mean much.

Word is that Barry is going to use even less of the hybrid safety/ILB types like Carpenter in the defense now. More cats like Dre and Quay Walker at both ILB spots.

So yeah, don't expect to see Carpenter on the grass much this season at ILB after camp and preseason games.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

I agree with the full time STer, but disagree with that understanding of less use of the hybrid role, as all systems need that hybrid role in dime defenses.

I believe Barry is just getting completely away from having physical Safeties in the hybrid role and going to athletic LBers like Quay Walker and Carpenter in that role.

This is probably in large part due to Barry's play calling of going with light boxes, which make it easier to run but harder to pass against. So he wants LBers over Safeties so that the run defense doesn't get too much of a mismatch.

So Carpenter could be #2 guy, when they need a coverage LB, behind Quay Walker... that makes it possible he potentially could see the field with injuries.


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PackersNation
2 years ago

I agree with the full time STer, but disagree with that understanding of less use of the hybrid role, as all systems need that hybrid role in dime defenses.

I believe Barry is just getting completely away from having physical Safeties in the hybrid role and going to athletic LBers like Quay Walker and Carpenter in that role.

This is probably in large part due to Barry's play calling of going with light boxes, which make it easier to run but harder to pass against. So he wants LBers over Safeties so that the run defense doesn't get too much of a mismatch.

So Carpenter could be #2 guy, when they need a coverage LB, behind Quay Walker... that makes it possible he potentially could see the field with injuries.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Barry uses dime about 20% of the time. Pettine was the big dime defense guy. This why 75% of the time there was only one true ILB on the field under Pettine. So glad he is gone.

Barry uses two true ILBs most of the time. Barry uses dime, but not near as much as Pettine did.

Dre, Quay Walker, Barnes, Summers, McDuffie...none of those cats are hybrid types. About 4 ILBs would have to get hurt before Carpenter sees the field in regular season.

Judging from reports yesterday at rookie camp, Carpenter looked lost out there. This cat was drafted at the request of Rich Bisaccia. Special teams is his home, if he even makes the squad.
beast
2 years ago


Quay Walker ...none of those cats are hybrid types.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

This is where we disagree, I think that the Packers believe he is a hybrid type and they'll be using him as such. And he'll be used as the dime S/ILB hybrid role.

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