Zero2Cool
2 years ago
Every single year, I lend my services to the Packers General Manager because obviously, I know everything, and they know nothing. Thus, here is the Packers opening day 53 roster.

OFFENSE (25)
QB: [list=1]
  • Aaron Rodgers
  • Jordan Love[/list]
  • RB: [list=1]
  • AJ Dillon
  • Aaron Jones
  • Kylin Hill
  • Patrick Taylor[/list]
  • WR: [list=1]
  • Randall Cobb
  • Sammy Watkins
  • Allen Lazard
  • Amari Rodgers
  • Christian Watson
  • Romeo Doubs[/list]
  • TE: [list=1]
  • Robert Tonyan
  • Josiah Deguara
  • Marcedes Lewis
  • Dominique Dafney[/list]
  • T: [list=1]
  • David Bakhtiari[*]Yosh Nijman[*]Sean Rhyan[/list]
  • G: [list=1][*]Elgton Jenkins[*] Jon Runyan Jr[*]Cole Van Lanen[*]Royce Newman[/list]C: [list=1][*]Josh Myers[*]Zach Tom[/list]DEFENSE (25)DL: [list=1][*]Kenny Clark[*]TJ Slaton[*]Jarran Reed[*]Devonte Wyatt[*]Jack Heflin[*]Dean Lowry[*]Jonathan Ford[/list]LB: [list=1][*]De'Vondre Campbell[*]JaQuavian Walker[*]Rashan Gary[*]Preston Smith[*]Krys Barnes[*]Kingsley Enagbare[*]Randy Ramsey[*]Tipa Galeai[*]Isaiah McDuffie[/list]CB: [list=1][*]Jaire Alexander[*]Eric Stokes[*]Rasul Douglas[*]Shemar Jean-Charles[*]Kabion Ento[/list]S: [list=1][*]Adrian Amos[*]Darnell Savage[*]Vernon Scott[*]Tariq Carpenter[/list]SPECIAL TEAMS (3)[list=1][*]K: Mason Crosby[*]P: Pat O'Donnell[*]LS: Steven Wirtel 😬[/list]
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    PackersNation
    2 years ago
    What did Samori Toure ever do to you?

    Dude cut Samori and put Jonathan Ford on the 53 just to piss me off.😌

    Joking, although I think there is a little truth there.
    beast
    2 years ago
    I think Jenkins is gonna start on the PUP list.

    That's too many DL, they usually keep 5, but have sometimes kept 6. 7 is too much, especially when considering one of them probably could sneak to the PS.

    Someone claimed the Packers claimed they're are putting Tariq Carpenter at ILB, despite playing SS in college.

    With Carpenter at ILB, then there is only 8 DBs when teams normally keep 10, especially for STs, so I'd say they keep the best two DB STer they can find instead of one of the DL and LB.
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    PackersNation
    2 years ago



    Someone claimed the Packers claimed they're are putting Tariq Carpenter at ILB, despite playing SS in college.

    Originally Posted by: beast 



    Matt LaFleur said he will be in the ILB room. We will probably only see him on the grass at ILB in camp and preseason. Full-Time Special Teamer once week 1 rolls around.
    Zero2Cool
    2 years ago

    I think Jenkins is gonna start on the PUP list.

    That's too many DL, they usually keep 5, but have sometimes kept 6. 7 is too much, especially when considering one of them probably could sneak to the PS.

    Someone claimed the Packers claimed they're are putting Tariq Carpenter at ILB, despite playing SS in college.

    With Carpenter at ILB, then there is only 8 DBs when teams normally keep 10, especially for STs, so I'd say they keep the best two DB STer they can find instead of one of the DL and LB.

    Originally Posted by: beast 



    I needed another position filled so I added Ford. 😉

    I think we'll have two undrafted guys make the roster and I wouldn't be surprised if we keep 7 WR.
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    Zero2Cool
    2 years ago
    No idea how this was tabulated so don't even try asking unless you know you're not going to be answered. Some Mike Clay on Tweeter posted this. Apparently Packers have best post-draft NFL roster.
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    PackersNation
    2 years ago

    No idea how this was tabulated so don't even try asking unless you know you're not going to be answered. Some Mike Clay on Tweeter posted this. Apparently Packers have best post-draft NFL roster.
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    Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



    I'm mildly annoyed that they disrespected our TE's and WR's.

    They are in for shock this season. Who made this anyhow? Mike Clay posted it, but I assume some idiots like PFF created it.
    Zero2Cool
    2 years ago

    I'm mildly annoyed that they disrespected our TE's and WR's.

    They are in for shock this season. Who made this anyhow? Mike Clay posted it, but I assume some idiots like PFF created it.

    Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



    I get the impression you are the kinda person who would win $200 million dollar lottery off a $5 ticket and complain about the taxes deducted from it.

    Anyhow, we can pretty much lock this 53 in minus ~3 changes. BOOK IT BABY!!!
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    beast
    2 years ago

    No idea how this was tabulated so don't even try asking unless you know you're not going to be answered. Some Mike Clay on Tweeter posted this. Apparently Packers have best post-draft NFL roster.
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    Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



    I noticed they didn't factor in STs... which was kinda the Packers biggest weakness.

    As for tabulation, it's not difficult, other than grading each player, but supposedly that's what PFF does. So just take their their grade and plug into the formula.

    But the number above the positions (like 28% is above QB) is how valuable is that position (according to PFF) to the teams overall success, and when you add them all up you get 100% .

    So according to PFF, QB is 28% of a teams success, while TEs are only 4% and RBs are only 3%.

    I think it's important to note, they have 58% of a teams success coming from the offensive side of the ball, and 42% on the defensive side.

    Then below the position is PFF grade on a 4.0 scale ... so Packers QB is at 4.0 which means 100% great QB.

    To get the averages on the right, you times the position value by the grade (so for QB is 28% * 4.0 = 1.12) and you do that for every position to find the value to the team and sum them up.

    So a prefect total grade would be 4.0, prefect offensive grade would be 2.32 (as it's 58% of overall grade) and a prefect defensive grade would be 1.68.


    To out it bluntly I'm terms of just Packers, they're finding this is where the Packers success is coming from

    36.9% QB
    13.1% CB
    13.0% OL
    9.0% DL
    8.7% S
    7.4% Edge
    6.2% LB
    3.1% RB
    1.4% WR
    1.2% TE

    I mean, I know the Packers don't nessarily have clear studs at WR and TE, but combine for less than 3% just seems absolutely disrespectful.
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    PackersNation
    2 years ago
    The more I look at Zero's final 53 the more I realize how wrong he is about his projections for the final 53.

    Dafney on the 53 over Tyler Davis at TE?

    And is he listing Cobb as our WR1? Cobb has a chance to not even make the roster. At best he is WR4.

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