Zero2Cool
4 months ago
Every single year, I lend my services to the Packers General Manager because obviously, I know everything, and they know nothing.

Thus, here is your 2024 Packers opening day 53 roster.

OFFENSE (24)
QB:
  1. Jordan Love
  2. Michael Pratt (R)

RB:
  1. Josh Jacobs
  2. MarShawn Lloyd (R)
  3. AJ Dillon

WR:
  1. Christian Watson
  2. Romeo Doubs
  3. Jayden Reed
  4. Bo Melton
  5. Dontayvion Wicks
  6. Malik Heath

TE:
  1. Luke Musgrave
  2. Tucker Kraft
  3. Ben Sims

T:
  1. Zach Tom
  2. Rasheed Walker
  3. Caleb Jones
  4. Andre Dillard

G:
  1. Elgton Jenkins
  2. Sean Rhyan
  3. Jacob Monk (R)
  4. Travis Glover (R)
  5. Donovan Jennings (R)

C:
  1. Josh Myers


DEFENSE (26)
DE:
  1. Preston Smith
  2. Rashan Gary
  3. Lukas Van Ness
  4. Karl Brooks
  5. Kingsley Enagbare
  6. Colby Wooden


DT:
  1. Kenny Clark
  2. Devonte Wyatt
  3. Jonathan Ford
  4. TJ Slaton

LB:
  1. Quay Walker
  2. Edgerrin Cooper (R)
  3. Ty'Ron Hopper (R)
  4. Eric Wilson
  5. Isaiah McDuffie


CB:
  1. Jaire Alexander
  2. Eric Stokes
  3. Keisean Nixon
  4. Carrington Valentine
  5. Corey Ballentine
  6. Kalen King (R)

S:
  1. Xavier McKinney
  2. Javon Bullard (R)
  3. Anthony Johnson Jr.
  4. Kitan Oladapo (R)
  5. Evan Williams (R)


SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
  1. K: Anders Carlson
  2. P: Daniel Whelan
  3. LS: Matt Orzech


I have spoken.
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4 months ago
bold picks here, especially at guard
Go Packers!!!!
wpr
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4 months ago
Using the Zero format

OFFENSE (25)
QB:
  1. Jordan Love
  2. Michael Pratt (R)

RB:
  1. Josh Jacobs
  2. MarShawn Lloyd (R)
  3. AJ Dillon

WR:
  1. Christian Watson
  2. Romeo Doubs
  3. Jayden Reed
  4. Bo Melton
  5. Dontayvion Wicks
  6. Grant DuBose

TE:
  1. Luke Musgrave
  2. Tucker Kraft
  3. Tyler Davis
  4. Ben Sims

T:
  1. Zach Tom
  2. Rasheed Walker
  3. Caleb Jones
  4. Andre Dillard

G:
  1. Elgton Jenkins
  2. Jordan Morgan (R)
  3. Sean Rhyan
  4. Travis Glover (R)

C:
  1. Josh Myers
  2. Jacob Monk (R)


DEFENSE (25)
DE:
  1. Preston Smith
  2. Rashan Gary
  3. Lukas Van Ness
  4. Karl Brooks
  5. Kingsley Enagbare
  6. Colby Wooden


DT:
  1. Kenny Clark
  2. Devonte Wyatt
  3. TJ Slaton

LB:
  1. Quay Walker
  2. Edgerrin Cooper (R)
  3. Ty'Ron Hopper (R)
  4. Eric Wilson
  5. Isaiah McDuffie


CB:
  1. Jaire Alexander
  2. Eric Stokes
  3. Keisean Nixon
  4. Carrington Valentine
  5. Corey Ballentine
  6. Kalen King (R)

S:
  1. Xavier McKinney
  2. Javon Bullard (R)
  3. Anthony Johnson Jr.
  4. Kitan Oladapo (R)
  5. Evan Williams (R)


SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
  1. K: Anders Carlson
  2. P: Daniel Whelan
  3. LS: Matt Orzech


QB2 is a tough choice. I wanna say Clifford because he has a year in the system but I think Pratt will not make it to the PS. If Love is injured Clifford would be promoted from the PS and probably would start so it works.
RB it is tempting to add Wilson as RB4. It's said the new KO rules favor the RB for returns as well as blocking for the returner.
WR Heath is the guy on the bubble. It's possible that DuBose jumps in there and takes it away. He has looked good in the little opportunity he has been given. Alright just to be a little contrary I'll taking DuBose.
TE Tyler Davis returns.
OL There are so many players that can play multiple positions I will look at them as a group. You do realize you left Morgan off your list don't you? Donovan Jennings to the PS
DE I would like to keep Brenton Cox but there simply isn't room for him. Perhaps after an injury opens a spot.
DT Going with only 3. Wooden and Brooks can fill in. Even LVN can slide inside for a series or two.
LB I figure Hopper might be dropped to the PS if he struggles. Wilson is on the bubble as well.
CB is set.
S 5 safeties seems like 1 too many but Johnson sticks around for the year. I half expected Oladapo to start the year on the PUP or IR for the season but he seems to be making progress.
ST Situation the same.



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beast
3 months ago
OFFENSE (25)
QB:
  1. Jordan Love
  2. Michael Pratt (R)
  3. Sean Clifford

  4. Missed: Eason

    RB:
  5. Josh Jacobs
  6. AJ Dillon
  7. MarShawn Lloyd (R)

  8. Barely Missed: Wilson
    Missed: Howard, Merriweather

    WR:
  9. Christian Watson
  10. Romeo Doubs
  11. Jayden Reed
  12. Dontayvion Wicks
  13. Bo Melton
  14. Malik Heath

  15. Barely Missed: DuBose
    Missed: Hicks, Stanley, Starkey, Toure, Wayne

    TE/FB:
  16. Luke Musgrave
  17. Tucker Kraft
  18. Ben Sims
  19. Tyler Davis (STs)

  20. Barely Missed: FB Pearson (STs)
    Missed: Wilson, Swinson

    T:
  21. Zach Tom
  22. Rasheed Walker
  23. Travis Glover (R)
  24. (OGs Morgan and Jennings are backups too)

    Missed: Dillard, Tenuta, Jones, Telfort

    G:
  25. Elgton Jenkins
  26. Jordan Morgan (R)
  27. Sean Rhyan
  28. Donovan Jennings (R)

  29. Missed: Newman

    C:
  30. Josh Myers
  31. Jacob Monk (R)

  32. Missed: Smith

    DEFENSE (25)
    DE:
  33. Preston Smith
  34. Rashan Gary
  35. Lukas Van Ness
  36. Kingsley Enagbare

  37. Just Missed: Cox
    Missed: Alexandre, Banks, Mosby, Odumegwu

    DT:
  38. Kenny Clark
  39. TJ Slaton
  40. Devonte Wyatt
  41. Karl Brooks
  42. Colby Wooden

  43. Missed: Ford, Ester, Waege

    LB:
  44. Quay Walker
  45. Edgerrin Cooper (R)
  46. Ty'Ron Hopper (R)
  47. Eric Wilson (STs)
  48. Isaiah McDuffie
  49. Kristian Welch (STs)

  50. Missed: Goforth, Young

    CB:
  51. Jaire Alexander
  52. Eric Stokes
  53. Keisean Nixon
  54. Carrington Valentine
  55. Corey Ballentine

  56. Just missed: Kalen King (R)
    Missed: Gilbert, Green, Rochell

    S:
  57. Xavier McKinney
  58. Javon Bullard (R)
  59. Evan Williams (R)
  60. Anthony Johnson Jr.
  61. Kitan Oladapo (R)

  62. Just missed: Benny Sapp III (STs)
    Missed: Anderson, Coyle

    SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
  63. K: Anders Carlson
  64. P: Daniel Whelan
  65. LS: Matt Orzech

  66. Missed: Joseph, Turner


Last Couple of Spots
3rd QB vs 4th RB:
Gute has been saying it wants to get back into the QB development business, and when I have written off statements like that from Gute, he has proved me wrong. So I think they could actually be trying to keep 3 QBs, and that could be why we have brought in the extra QB coaches. Plus draft pick QB over UDFA RB, and QBs are harder to find than RBs.

5th DE vs 5th DT
Building rosters is partly all about the numbers, and traditionally 4-3 teams often keep 4 of each DE and DT. So it might be hard to get 5 of each.
Honestly, going with the extra DE makes more sense as Gary and Van Ness can drop down and play a rotational DT role, and I saw a report that said Van Ness has been doing more of this in camp so far this year. Plus STs, the DE would probably be more helpful. That being said, draft picks vs UDFA again, I just felt like they might want to keep Wooden over Cox. Logically, I think it's DE over DT, but I just need to seem more of Wooden and Cox before I could pull that trigger.

Whom is the 5th Safety:
I'm going to assume that McKinney and higher and healthy draft picks Javon Bullard and Williams are locks. Which to me leaves Johnson, Oladapo and Sapp. In college, Johnson was basically a CB, and even when he supposedly got moved to Safety his final year, that was mainly nickel and dime up front roles, he basically had no experience deep until his rookie year with the Packers. Oladapo is currently injured, missing time, and he's long legged and struggling with quick change of the direction, a lot to like, but he can't get too far behind. I don't know how Sapp is as a Safety, but sometimes he can be shockingly good as a ST gunner, STs coach might demand he sticks just for that. Also, once again, going with the draft picks over the UDFA here.

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Not one of my final spots, but I figure this could be a questioned decision.

Whom is the 5th CB and why only 5 CBs?
Simply put, Gute and LaFleaur have gotten away from keeping 6 CBs (4 S) and have seemed to go with 5 CBs (5 S).

Some will believe that Ballentine is the odd man out, and he might be, and he might have the 6th best coverage of the group... but last year, they benched Valentine (whom is better in coverage) for Ballentine, because of Ballentine's run defense and tackling abilities. With this defensive scheme, in theory it's going to force the ball out of the backfield quicker, but that means players will have to rally and wrap up quicker too, and that change really suits Ballentine's style of play.


Also, I'm guessing LB Kristian Welch will be a surprise for most, but he made it onto the 53 man roster last year as a STer and I believe (at least back in the day when Packers used to run 4-3) 4-3 teams used to carry 6 LBers and Packers have been carrying 5 ILB while in the 3-4 with only 2 starting spots, as they wanted more LBers for STs.
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Zero2Cool
2 months ago
I wouldn't be surprised if both Clifford and Pratt get cut Tuesday.
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bboystyle
2 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if both Clifford and Pratt get cut Tuesday.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Definitely Clifford. I feel better with Pratt being the back up. Clifford is just bad. I doubt we cut Pratt(rookie)
Zero2Cool
2 months ago

Definitely Clifford. I feel better with Pratt being the back up. Clifford is just bad. I doubt we cut Pratt(rookie)

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


I would see this scenario if the Packers have someone they want to put on temporary IR. Otherwise, they'll likely keep Pratt. I think there was some talk about how good a of a pick he was when he was selected. Something about it was surprising he fell or something. Could have just been the Packers talking that noise too.

Josh Jacobs ruined Sean Clifford!
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wpr
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2 months ago

Using the Zero format

OFFENSE (25)
QB:

  1. Jordan Love
  2. Michael Pratt (R) to PS maybe
  3. Malik Wills
  4. Clifford gone.

RB:
  1. Josh Jacobs
  2. MarShawn Lloyd (R) to IR maybe
  3. AJ Dillon maybe it's Dillon that ends up on IR
  4. Emanuel Wilson

WR:
  1. Christian Watson
  2. Romeo Doubs
  3. Jayden Reed
  4. Dontayvion Wicks
  5. Malik Heath[/*] I tried to move on but DuBose didn't step up.
  6. Grant DuBose PS
  7. Bo Melton

TE:
  1. Luke Musgrave
  2. Tucker Kraft
  3. Tyler Davis IR maybe
  4. Ben Sims

T:
  1. Zach Tom
  2. Rasheed Walker
  3. Caleb Jones
  4. Andre Dillard
  5. Kadeem Telford PS. I want him but no room.

G:
  1. Elgton Jenkins
  2. Jordan Morgan (R)
  3. Sean Rhyan
  4. Travis Glover (R)

C:
  1. Josh Myers
  2. Jacob Monk (R)


25th player is a mystery. Keep 3 QB w/ Pratt. How injured is Loyd or Davis. Ben Sims might lose out to Joel Wilson but doubtful.

DEFENSE (25)
DE:
  1. Preston Smith
  2. Rashan Gary
  3. Lukas Van Ness
  4. Kingsley Enagbare
  5. Brenton Cox
  6. Should have had him on before. Brooks and Wooden moved to DT.


DT:
  1. Kenny Clark
  2. Devonte Wyatt
  3. TJ Slaton
  4. Karl Brooks
  5. Colby Wooden

LB:
  1. Quay Walker
  2. Edgerrin Cooper (R)
  3. Ty'Ron Hopper (R)
  4. Eric Wilson
  5. Isaiah McDuffie
  6. Kristian Welch to PS


CB:
  1. Jaire Alexander
  2. Eric Stokes
  3. Keisean Nixon
  4. Carrington Valentine
  5. Corey Ballentine
  6. Kalen King (R)

S:
  1. Xavier McKinney
  2. Javon Bullard (R)
  3. Anthony Johnson Jr.
  4. Kitan Oladapo (R) IR
  5. Evan Williams (R)


SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
  1. K: Anders Carlson
  2. P: Daniel Whelan
  3. LS: Matt Orzech


Originally Posted by: wpr 



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Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked
Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?
beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.
bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league
packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.
beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."
Mucky Tundra (17-Nov) : my worst case scenario: Bears fix their oline and get a coach like Johnson from the Lions and his scheme
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Bears get OL fixed amd we might have a problem
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Pretty sure they already have scouting reports on guys who aren't even starting for their college team. The future is now for me.
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : I tend to let Gute and Co. Worry about the future.
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Jaire and Evans Williams are both ACTIVE! Good news.
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : The badgers really need to change the whole offensive scheme. No draws no screens plus the quarterback is marginal
Cheesey (17-Nov) : If the Badgers had a decent QB, they would have won. The guy can't hit a wide open receiver
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : chop block
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : there was a very questionable job Block call that upon viewing replay was very borderline
beast (17-Nov) : How so? (I didn't watch)
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Badgers got hosed vs Oregon
packerfanoutwest (16-Nov) : damn,he hasn't played since week 2
Mucky Tundra (15-Nov) : poor guy can't catch a break
wpr (15-Nov) : wow. That three different things for the kid.
Zero2Cool (15-Nov) : MarShawn Lloyd has appendicitis according to Matt LaFleur.
Zero2Cool (14-Nov) : He probably plays DB.
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