He has no problem reaching for Jordan Love though. Maybe he learned his lesson? Gute has been money with first rounders so far except Love. Gotta give him his props!

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 

A reach as in he traded UP to grab him in the first when he would 10000% be available day 2. You dont waste a back up regardless as your first round pick when u are in win NOW mode and need other positions filled.


I dont listen to pundits online who claim to be experts. But even Rodgers knew it was a dumn pick as Love will contribute NOTHING to this team until a few years later IF he even pans out.

So yes, a reach is exactly what Love is

I wouldnt mind selecting Love just not in the first and definitely not trade up to grab him

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 

Rodgers said Packers had six WR with round one grade. Maybe Watson was one of them? After all, it's being said Packers tried getting pick 32 but were denied and had to get pick 34 instead.

If the Packers had Watson graded round one talent, then how can anyone claim it to be a reach? Also, why not use pick 28 on him unless they felt Watson would fall further than Wyatt and wanted both? Some serious Chess playing shit there. Again, some rely on what the MEDIA has forced down our throats as to where these kids --should-- have been picked vs what the NFL teams have on their boards.

I would love for all 32 teams to post something like their top 100 graded players in order. That would freaking be awesome. THEN and ONLY then can we intelligently be like haha you fooked up!! lol

But, some folks like conjecture and entertainment for the basis of their assumptions. AND THAT IS OKAY!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

And furthermore😤

Anyone saying the pick for Christian Watson was a reach is completely clueless.

Again, I will go with Gute's record and opinion over any clown on here. And don't get me started on some saying Gute gave up too much to get him.

Picks are just picks until they turn into players. When you love a player like Gute and his staff love Watson, you do what it takes to get him.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

Whoa, whoa. I wouldn't say people are clueless. You have to understand the landscape. We're shoveled #2 repeatedly that skews our perspective of these kids. It's hard to dismiss the constant trash thrown at us. So many of us are insanely busy trying to stay afloat to actually compentalizefrivolouss things like a kid being drafted at X spot vs Y spot. And of course it's easy for us to hate billion dollar franchises and think we're smarter than them.

Personally, this is what I do for a living (observe, analyze, solve) so it comes second nature. Oh, I also despise the media with a (probably unhealthy) passion for how they prance around as informing us when they are doing nothing more than whatever it takes to consume our attention.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I was using restraint saying clueless. I should be praised for not ripping more people new ones here.

Anyway, moving on...

If "#2" is "shoveled" your way you simply walk away. You don't pick it up and eat it. Stay away from all social media and television(except watching sporting events) for 1 month. You will start realizing how beautiful the world is again.

My life lesson for today. You all can thank me later. No worries, you may hate me now, but I grow on you after a while.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

And now you know why I do not watch the news, or ESPN or any of those craptastic shows. ;-)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

The draft isn't always about who will contribute right away but who will contribute in the future. Back in 2005 Ted Thompson drafted for the future in the first round too.

Originally Posted by: Pugger