Brian Gutekunst: We can't reach just because a player is a wide receiver· Page 4

bboystyle
Member

3 years ago

I agree with almost everything in your post except the above, and the fact you always seem to imply teams give up too much in trades to move up in the draft. Draft picks are nothing until they become players.

On J-Love's release being "too slow and intentional" you just are simply not seeing what others see.

First, J-Love has a absolute cannon for a arm. Now, the release is what you are talking about, and that is far from slow. It's a quick motion and release. Is it as quick as Aaron's? No, but neither are 99% of QBs releases.

Some here without a clue will disagree, but J-Love has a stronger arm than Aaron. That is fact. Aaron's motion is quicker. But overall arm strength goes to J-Love because he does indeed have the stronger arm. Aaron has a very strong arm still, but it is not stronger than J-Love's. I've seen them both throw live at camp. It would be obvious to you live.

The J-Love pick was a good one. If Gute truly felt he made a mistake he would be taking calls to trade J-Love. He isn't afraid to admit he made a mistake. He isn't interested in trading J-Love for a reason. Because he still feels that in time Jordan can be a elite QB in the league. Right now he is a very valuable backup.

I will go with Gute's opinion over any of the trolls that post here. They are trying to get attention by hating on Aaron, much like the talking heads on TV do to get ratings. Difference is that Colin Cowherd, Mike Florio, and Skip Bayless are making bank off those fools that buy into their drivel. I will guarantee the trolls here read PFT religiously. I wonder if they know that 90% of the comments on PFT are created by a member of Mike's staff. That is a fact. Mike Florio also directs his writers to follow a Packer and Aaron Rodgers hating agenda. Also a fact.

Go post a comment on PFT that goes against Florio's Packers hating agenda. It will not post. They 100% control the content of the comments section.

Florio is a failed lawyer that started a NFL gossip site. Don't waste your time reading that crap.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

This guy really thinks anyone who doesnt share his love fest for Love or doesnt agree with his postings are trolls(very low of you btw). You really need to look up the definition of trolls before getting all bent out over nothing. Not everyone shares the same opinion (like how Lobe has a stronger arm then Aaron). I have yet to see any trolls on here at all. Honestly, u calling several people on here trolls is like trolling itself. Creating a delusion that dont exist for your pleasure.

You really arent built for public message boards due to your narrow sensitive perspectives on things.

wpr
Preferred Member

3 years ago

#32

And furthermore😤

Anyone saying the pick for Christian Watson was a reach is completely clueless.

Again, I will go with Gute's record and opinion over any clown on here. And don't get me started on some saying Gute gave up too much to get him.

Picks are just picks until they turn into players. When you love a player like Gute and his staff love Watson, you do what it takes to get him.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

I have yet to see anyone who was upset with the Packers for taking Watson at 34 declare with certainty that he would have still been on the board at 53. If he wasn't going to be there they HAD to trade up. If they feel moving up to 34 was too high then we're should they have gone in order to know 100% that they would get him?
Only at 34. No one knows (at this time) if GB tried to get 34 for less than their 2 second round picks.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

#33

Originally Posted by: bboystyle

I've watched Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers in person. Love does not have a stronger arm than Rodgers. Not that you need me to tell you, but just spitting it out there. The ball jumps out or Rodgers hand whereas with Love it's like trying to get rid of a clingy girlfriend that you put a lot of effort into gett it off your hand, but barely separates!

Trolls are cute though. I've been trying to get my daughter to go dress as one for halloween. She has the longest thickest hair I've ever seen and she's so freaking tiny! She has interest in it until I tell her I'd hang her upside to spray her hair. 😬

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

#34

Well, umm, here is some of the Cowboys draft board. Thanks to Jerry Jones lol

Saints overpaid for one player, and that player is graded as a Round Two!! Bahahahahahhahaha

1. Kayvon Thibodeaux, DE, Oregon: drafted at No. 5 by the Giants.
2. Evan Neal, OT, Alabama: drafted at No. 7 by the Giants.
3. Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan: drafted at No. 2 by the Lions.
4. Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State: drafted at No. 10 by the Jets.
5. Ahmad Gardner, CB, Cincinnati: drafted at No. 4 by the Jets.
6. Derek Stingley, CB, LSU: drafted at No. 3 by the Texans.
7. Travon Walker, DE, Georgia: drafted at No. 1 by the Jaguars.
8. Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame: drafted at No. 14 by the Ravens.
9. Ikem Ekwonu, OT, North Carolina State: drafted at No. 6 by the Panthers.
10. Drake London, WR, USC: drafted at No. 8 by the Falcons.
11. Jordan Davis, DT, Georgia: drafted at No. 13 by the Eagles.
12. Charles Cross, OT, Mississippi State: drafted at No. 9 by the Seahawks.
13. Lewis Cine, S, Georgia: drafted at No. 32 by the Vikings.
14. Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama: drafted at No. 12 by the Lions.

The second-round grades on the front of the paper appear to go as follows:
15. Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State: drafted at No. 11 by the Saints.
16. Tyler Smith, OL, Tulsa: drafted at No. 24 by the Cowboys.
17. Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah: drafted at No. 27 by the Jaguars.
18. Daxton Hill, S, Michigan: drafted at No. 31 by the Bengals.
19. Breece Hall, RB, Iowa State: drafted at No. 36 by the Jets.
20. Kenyon Green, OG, Texas A&M: drafted at No. 15 by the Texans.
21. George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue: drafted at No. 30 by the Chiefs.
22. Zion Johnson, OG, Boston College: drafted at No. 17 by the Chargers.
23. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas: drafted at No. 18 by the Titans.
24. Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington: drafted at No. 39 by the Bears.
25. Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa: drafted at No. 25 by the Ravens.
26. David Ojabo, DE, Michigan: drafted at No. 45 by the Ravens.
27. Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State: drafted at No. 16 by the Commanders.
28. Jermaine Johnson, DE, Florida State: drafted at No. 26 by the Jets.
29. Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida: drafted at No. 23 by the Bills.
30. Arnold Ebiketie, DE, Penn State: drafted at No. 38 by the Falcons.
31. Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington: drafted at No. 21 by the Chiefs.
32. Quay Walker, LB, Georgia: drafted at No. 22 by the Packers.
33. Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia: drafted at No. 28 by the Packers.
34. Logan Hall, DE, Houston: drafted at No. 33 by the Buccaneers.

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