Brian Gutekunst: We can't reach just because a player is a wide receiver· Page 4

bboystyle
Member

2 years ago

I agree with almost everything in your post except the above, and the fact you always seem to imply teams give up too much in trades to move up in the draft. Draft picks are nothing until they become players.

On J-Love's release being "too slow and intentional" you just are simply not seeing what others see.

First, J-Love has a absolute cannon for a arm. Now, the release is what you are talking about, and that is far from slow. It's a quick motion and release. Is it as quick as Aaron's? No, but neither are 99% of QBs releases.

Some here without a clue will disagree, but J-Love has a stronger arm than Aaron. That is fact. Aaron's motion is quicker. But overall arm strength goes to J-Love because he does indeed have the stronger arm. Aaron has a very strong arm still, but it is not stronger than J-Love's. I've seen them both throw live at camp. It would be obvious to you live.

The J-Love pick was a good one. If Gute truly felt he made a mistake he would be taking calls to trade J-Love. He isn't afraid to admit he made a mistake. He isn't interested in trading J-Love for a reason. Because he still feels that in time Jordan can be a elite QB in the league. Right now he is a very valuable backup.

I will go with Gute's opinion over any of the trolls that post here. They are trying to get attention by hating on Aaron, much like the talking heads on TV do to get ratings. Difference is that Colin Cowherd, Mike Florio, and Skip Bayless are making bank off those fools that buy into their drivel. I will guarantee the trolls here read PFT religiously. I wonder if they know that 90% of the comments on PFT are created by a member of Mike's staff. That is a fact. Mike Florio also directs his writers to follow a Packer and Aaron Rodgers hating agenda. Also a fact.

Go post a comment on PFT that goes against Florio's Packers hating agenda. It will not post. They 100% control the content of the comments section.

Florio is a failed lawyer that started a NFL gossip site. Don't waste your time reading that crap.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

This guy really thinks anyone who doesnt share his love fest for Love or doesnt agree with his postings are trolls(very low of you btw). You really need to look up the definition of trolls before getting all bent out over nothing. Not everyone shares the same opinion (like how Lobe has a stronger arm then Aaron). I have yet to see any trolls on here at all. Honestly, u calling several people on here trolls is like trolling itself. Creating a delusion that dont exist for your pleasure.

You really arent built for public message boards due to your narrow sensitive perspectives on things.

wpr
Preferred Member

2 years ago

#32

And furthermore😤

Anyone saying the pick for Christian Watson was a reach is completely clueless.

Again, I will go with Gute's record and opinion over any clown on here. And don't get me started on some saying Gute gave up too much to get him.

Picks are just picks until they turn into players. When you love a player like Gute and his staff love Watson, you do what it takes to get him.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

I have yet to see anyone who was upset with the Packers for taking Watson at 34 declare with certainty that he would have still been on the board at 53. If he wasn't going to be there they HAD to trade up. If they feel moving up to 34 was too high then we're should they have gone in order to know 100% that they would get him?
Only at 34. No one knows (at this time) if GB tried to get 34 for less than their 2 second round picks.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

2 years ago

#33

Originally Posted by: bboystyle

I've watched Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers in person. Love does not have a stronger arm than Rodgers. Not that you need me to tell you, but just spitting it out there. The ball jumps out or Rodgers hand whereas with Love it's like trying to get rid of a clingy girlfriend that you put a lot of effort into gett it off your hand, but barely separates!

Trolls are cute though. I've been trying to get my daughter to go dress as one for halloween. She has the longest thickest hair I've ever seen and she's so freaking tiny! She has interest in it until I tell her I'd hang her upside to spray her hair. 😬

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

2 years ago

#34

Well, umm, here is some of the Cowboys draft board. Thanks to Jerry Jones lol

Saints overpaid for one player, and that player is graded as a Round Two!! Bahahahahahhahaha

1. Kayvon Thibodeaux, DE, Oregon: drafted at No. 5 by the Giants.
2. Evan Neal, OT, Alabama: drafted at No. 7 by the Giants.
3. Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan: drafted at No. 2 by the Lions.
4. Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State: drafted at No. 10 by the Jets.
5. Ahmad Gardner, CB, Cincinnati: drafted at No. 4 by the Jets.
6. Derek Stingley, CB, LSU: drafted at No. 3 by the Texans.
7. Travon Walker, DE, Georgia: drafted at No. 1 by the Jaguars.
8. Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame: drafted at No. 14 by the Ravens.
9. Ikem Ekwonu, OT, North Carolina State: drafted at No. 6 by the Panthers.
10. Drake London, WR, USC: drafted at No. 8 by the Falcons.
11. Jordan Davis, DT, Georgia: drafted at No. 13 by the Eagles.
12. Charles Cross, OT, Mississippi State: drafted at No. 9 by the Seahawks.
13. Lewis Cine, S, Georgia: drafted at No. 32 by the Vikings.
14. Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama: drafted at No. 12 by the Lions.

The second-round grades on the front of the paper appear to go as follows:
15. Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State: drafted at No. 11 by the Saints.
16. Tyler Smith, OL, Tulsa: drafted at No. 24 by the Cowboys.
17. Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah: drafted at No. 27 by the Jaguars.
18. Daxton Hill, S, Michigan: drafted at No. 31 by the Bengals.
19. Breece Hall, RB, Iowa State: drafted at No. 36 by the Jets.
20. Kenyon Green, OG, Texas A&M: drafted at No. 15 by the Texans.
21. George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue: drafted at No. 30 by the Chiefs.
22. Zion Johnson, OG, Boston College: drafted at No. 17 by the Chargers.
23. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas: drafted at No. 18 by the Titans.
24. Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington: drafted at No. 39 by the Bears.
25. Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa: drafted at No. 25 by the Ravens.
26. David Ojabo, DE, Michigan: drafted at No. 45 by the Ravens.
27. Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State: drafted at No. 16 by the Commanders.
28. Jermaine Johnson, DE, Florida State: drafted at No. 26 by the Jets.
29. Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida: drafted at No. 23 by the Bills.
30. Arnold Ebiketie, DE, Penn State: drafted at No. 38 by the Falcons.
31. Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington: drafted at No. 21 by the Chiefs.
32. Quay Walker, LB, Georgia: drafted at No. 22 by the Packers.
33. Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia: drafted at No. 28 by the Packers.
34. Logan Hall, DE, Houston: drafted at No. 33 by the Buccaneers.

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packerfanoutwest (30m) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath

packerfanoutwest (32m) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.

packerfanoutwest (43m) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (3h) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (3h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (3h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (3h) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (3h) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (3h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (3h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (3h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (4h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (4h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (4h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (4h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (5h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (5h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (5h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (5h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (6h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

Zero2Cool (6h) : I see what you did there Mucky

Zero2Cool (6h) : dammit. 3:25pm

Zero2Cool (6h) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm

Mucky Tundra (6h) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground

Mucky Tundra (6h) : Yeah baby!

Zero2Cool (7h) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah

Zero2Cool (8h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (8h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (9h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (9h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (9h) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (9h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

Zero2Cool (9h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

beast (9h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (9h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (9h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

beast (9h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games

beast (9h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality

beast (9h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs

Zero2Cool (9h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread

Zero2Cool (9h) : I literally just said it.

packerfanoutwest (9h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't

Zero2Cool (9h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.

Zero2Cool (9h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.

packerfanoutwest (10h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what

Zero2Cool (10h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.

packerfanoutwest (10h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in

packerfanoutwest (10h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker

packerfanoutwest (10h) : if bucs win out they win their division

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