beast
2 years ago

Matt Ryan looks like to be a Colt before end of tomorrow -- per rumors.

Falcons get
Packers 28th overall (660)
QB Jordan Love

Packers get
Falcons 8th overall (1,400)

Based on DrafTek  valuation, this is saying Jordan Love is basically worth 24th overall pick. (Love was drafted 26th overall in 2020)

That being said, Packers probably have to trade the 22nd overall (780) pick instead of 28th. That would then value Love at 30th overall value.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Love isn't getting a huge pick right now... he hasn't proven anything.

Falcons are reportedly going after Marcus Mariota, which both he and the Falcons head coach spend time on the Titans together.

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2 years ago
First off I say we dont trade any of our first 4 picks and we keep Love as we will need someone to cover when Rodgers goes down or retires. I have no clue why you guys keep saying trade Love when we still need him. Also pretty much every team has their QB now with all the trades and FA signings. Plus you still have Jimmy G out there for a trade. I say we draft Williams and come back with Burks or Dotson. I wish they would get the guy that can fly aka a Ty Hill type and I think Williams is that guy.
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2 years ago
If we trade, do it for a pick next year, and move up at least 10-15 spots.
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2 years ago
This is in another thread but it may be more appropriate here:

Subject to us not signing or trading for a top WR, my draft recommendation would be something like this.

First, we are not going to get London at 22ā€¦.no chance. He projected between 11-15. I have only seen him past 20 in one projection. Also, perhaps not Wilson or Williams and maybe not Olaveā€¦they project 13-21. Therefore, it would be prudent to trade up to make sure you get one of those guys. Also, I would LOVE to have Williams AL, but I donā€™t know how long it would take for him to get healthy.

Using the point system for trades which seems to be the way to ā€˜keep it realā€™, I would package pick 22 and pick 53 together, which totals 1160 points. That puts us at pick 12 or 13, where I would hope to get London or Wilson, if not, then Williams. Then, I still have the pick 28 in the first round, where I would select an OT, perhaps Cross-MissSU, Penning-IA, or Smith-Tulsa.

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2 years ago
If I were trade up, I would only trade up from #28 a few spots by giving up a 4th rounder to grab the last remaining player from a group of several that I would have wanted to grab at #22.
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2 years ago

This is in another thread but it may be more appropriate here:

Subject to us not signing or trading for a top WR, my draft recommendation would be something like this.

First, we are not going to get London at 22ā€¦.no chance. He projected between 11-15. I have only seen him past 20 in one projection. Also, perhaps not Wilson or Williams and maybe not Olaveā€¦they project 13-21. Therefore, it would be prudent to trade up to make sure you get one of those guys. Also, I would LOVE to have Williams AL, but I donā€™t know how long it would take for him to get healthy.

Using the point system for trades which seems to be the way to ā€˜keep it realā€™, I would package pick 22 and pick 53 together, which totals 1160 points. That puts us at pick 12 or 13, where I would hope to get London or Wilson, if not, then Williams. Then, I still have the pick 28 in the first round, where I would select an OT, perhaps Cross-MissSU, Penning-IA, or Smith-Tulsa.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



I have been thinking about this post and the earlier one. A lot of what you say makes sense.

A few comments. If there is a rush on WRs then GB can flip and take a look at another position that is being ignored. Perhaps EDGE or OT. Skyy Moore, George Pickens and Treylon Burks are getting top 25 attention too. You just never know when a GM thinks one of these guys is a better fit for their scheme and takes them ahead of the more touted receivers.

There will be a few teams that panic and grab a QB even though this is a weak year for QBs. That's going to let players the Packers are more interested in fall.

I was looking at a big board that CBS put together. In the top 30 they have 7 WR, 5 CB, 5 EDGE and 4 OT they can't all be gone.

If their board is anything like the Packers real board I can see the #22 pick being a OT and pick 28 being an EDGE rusher. They will circle back and pick up a WR in the 2nd round. The main reason being the difference between WR6 and WR12 is not as great as OT4 and OT8. The same for the EDGE rushers who are available in the 1st and second rounds.
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2 years ago
High picks are too hard to come by. Get two players, or trade back a few spots and get three.
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Nonstopdrivel
2 years ago

If I were trade up, I would only trade up from #28 a few spots by giving up a 4th rounder to grab the last remaining player from a group of several that I would have wanted to grab at #22.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 


This is so vague that I donā€™t have the slightest clue what youā€™re driving at. Or is this a purely a discussion of general draft-day mechanics and tactics?
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2 years ago

This is so vague that I donā€™t have the slightest clue what youā€™re driving at. Or is this a purely a discussion of general draft-day mechanics and tactics?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



I thought this thread was which draft picks would you be willing to trade to move up.

To clarify my previous post, imagine GB having an equal rating/grade on a DL, OT, OLB/Edge and WR. Green Bay nabs the DL first at #22. At #23, the OT is drafted and at #25 the WR is drafted. At this point, Green Bay trades the #28 and a 4th rounder to get the #26 draft pick and drafts the OLB/Edge since they don't think he'll last until their pick at #28.
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