Zero2Cool
3 years ago

GREEN BAY, Wis. – There’s a logical reason to trade Aaron Rodgers.

It’s been more than a decade since he led the Green Bay Packers to the Super Bowl, let alone won one. The Packers the last three seasons became the first team in NFL history with three consecutive 13-win seasons. They earned the highly coveted No. 1 seed in the NFC playoffs – meaning homefield advantage and the only first-round bye – in back-to-back seasons. Rodgers is coming off back-to-back MVP seasons.

All of that meant exactly nothing in the playoffs. The run defense was terrible in the 2019 NFC championship. Kevin King was terrible in the 2020 NFC Championship Game. The special teams were terrible in the 2021 divisional game. But Rodgers wasn’t close to good enough in any of those games.

If the Packers couldn’t win the Super Bowl in 2020 or, especially, 2021, when they got some key players back from injuries and had a full house and miserable weather to host San Francisco, then maybe they’ll never win another Super Bowl with Rodgers.

Meanwhile, the Packers could trade Rodgers – and Davante Adams, while they’re at – and get three or four first-round picks (and another pick/player or two) in return along with an opportunity for a financial reset.

It’s an intriguing idea.

And it’s wrong.

Just because the Rodgers-led Packers haven’t won another Super Bowl doesn’t mean they can’t or they won’t.

The greatest case in point is Tom Brady.

Brady was well on his way to becoming an NFL legend after capping the 2004 season with a third Super Bowl win in four years. He was merely 27 years old on the night New England edged Philadelphia 24-21 for Super Bowl ring No. 3.

But the Brady-led Patriots didn’t win the Super Bowl in 2005. Or 2006. Or 2007. Or 2008. Or 2009. Or 2010. Or 2011. Or 2012. Or 2013. They reached the Super Bowl in a couple of those seasons, but Brady’s championship drought had reached a decade when, in 2014, the Patriots drafted quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo as the potential successor for the 36-year-old Brady.

That set the stage for the next act of Brady’s career. New England won a gift-wrapped Super Bowl against Seattle in 2014, then staged a comeback for the ages to stun Atlanta for another championship in 2016. The Patriots’ defense gave Brady another title in 2018. In 2020, Brady went to Tampa Bay, beat Rodgers in the NFC Championship Game and won a seventh Super Bowl in a rout of Kansas City.

A great quarterback gives his team a realistic opportunity to win the Super Bowl every season. Greatness – whether it’s as a player or as a team – isn’t guaranteed, though. Even with Brady’s legendary success, consider this: During that one-decade championship drought, Brady lost eight playoff games. He put 17 or fewer points on the scoreboard six times and 21 points in a seventh game.

In other words, Brady didn’t deliver in key moments. Just like Rodgers hasn’t delivered in key moments.

With a great quarterback, there’s a chance. There’s a chance to get hot in the playoffs, to make the big play, to rise to the occasion, to build a legend. Over the last six seasons, Brady is 13-3 in playoff games. He led his team to 30-plus points in 12 of those games. It was staggering success.

Without a great quarterback, you’re just a team that, in the grand scheme of things, isn’t really relevant. You’re the Saints without Drew Brees. You’re the Broncos of the last several years. You’re the Bears of, seemingly, forever.

General manager Brian Gutekunst knows that. And that’s why he wants to keep Rodgers. That’s why he’s betting on Rodgers instead of draft picks.

No doubt he’s considered the opportunity to reload on the fly by trading Rodgers for a king’s ransom. But he also knows there’s no guarantee that next quarterback is on the roster (Jordan Love) or waiting in the wings (a 2023 first-round pick). His playoff failures notwithstanding, riding with Rodgers doesn’t just provide the best chance to win a Super Bowl over the next season or three. Rodgers probably provides the only chance.

“I think we’ve got as good a shot as anybody to win a Super Bowl next year,” Gutekunst said when asked why he wouldn’t trade Rodgers. “He’s the MVP of the league. That’s our goal. I think we have an opportunity to do it right now. That’s why."

Continue Reading @ Sports Illustrated 

Bill Huber wrote:



Bill lakes some good points here. He seems to leave out contract details though.
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Cheesey
3 years ago
I agree with the guy.
And the points he made about Brady not always being the best was great points.
And Rodgers still gives the best chance for the Packers to win a SB in the near future.
You only know what you've got when it's gone, it seems.
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nerdmann
3 years ago

Bill lakes some good points here. He seems to leave out contract details though.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Let's take the example of the Cowboys with the Hershey Walker trade. With those picks, they built a dynasty. And they were starting from zero. We're starting from 3 consecutivec13-3 seasons.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nerdmann
3 years ago
Here's another thing. It's quite possible the team is trying to manage this, SAY all the right things in fear of Aaron Rodgers blitzkrieging the team with wall to wall leaks and media hysteria like he and his media sycophants did last offseason.

They still got Ari Fleischer on speed dial?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Cheesey
3 years ago

Let's take the example of the Cowboys with the Hershey Walker trade. .

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



"Hershey" Walker? Is he the "Willy Wonka" of football?
(I couldn't pass that one up!)🤪
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bboystyle
3 years ago
They didnt mention how Brady help save cap space for NE to make roster moves. I doubt Rodgers is willing to do that. Just like how he is unwillingly not taking what defenses give him.
Cheesey
3 years ago

They didnt mention how Brady help save cap space for NE to make roster moves. I doubt Rodgers is willing to do that. Just like how he is unwillingly not taking what defenses give him.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



Yes, Rodgers isn't Tom Brady. Neither is any other QB in the NFL.
But all the other QBs in the NFL aren't Aaron Rodgers. And I bet almost all the other teams WISH they had Rodgers as their QB .
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dyeah_gb
3 years ago
Read that article but replace Aaron Rodgers with Brett Favre and Jordan Love with Aaron Rodgers.

Not saying that Love will be as good as Rodgers. I am also not gojng to say he will be worse.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
Pugger
3 years ago

Read that article but replace Aaron Rodgers with Brett Favre and Jordan Love with Aaron Rodgers.

Not saying that Love will be as good as Rodgers. I am also not gojng to say he will be worse.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



Rodgers is a generational talent. Having a QB like him on your roster makes you an instant favorite to win it all and will make another team a favorite should we trade him away while we'll be just another @.500 team scrambling for a wild card spot. Love might be a good QB someday but watching all of the restructuring of other players' contracts is seems Gute and company are not quite ready to hand over the reins to Love just yet.
yooperfan
3 years ago
[quote=Pugger;448170]Rodgers is a generational talent. Having a QB like him on your roster makes you an instant favorite to win it all and will make another team a favorite should we trade him away while we'll be just another @.500 team scrambling for a wild card spot. Love might be a good QB someday but watching all of the restructuring of other players' contracts is seems Gute and company are not quite ready to hand over the reins to Love just yet.[/quote

Like we have won it all so many times over the last eleven years WITH Rodgers under center?
Come on man!
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