Zero2Cool
3 years ago
"Washington Football team announces they will retire Sean Taylor's No. 21 on Sunday."

Call me a conspiracy theory guy, but the timing of this kind of feels off.
beast
3 years ago

"Washington Football team announces they will retire Sean Taylor's No. 21 on Sunday."

Call me a conspiracy theory guy, but the timing of this kind of feels off.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I was right there with you, this timing feels off, but just looked it up, and saw where one NFL guy (for the Broncos) claimed this has been in the works for a while, but the timing is horrible.

But they had planed to retire the number "During Alumni Homecoming Weekend" with the Alumni and Taylor's family there, which you don't do all of that very last minute, so I think this was planned in advance.

Though still, if possible I probably would of waited another year until they had their actual new long term mascot/name in place to do it... unless it's the 20 year anniversary or something.

You know what... they probably did plan this for the fall out of the investigation... not nessarily the recent email stuff (not enough time for that) but maybe to get some positive news worried the investigation might have bad news though, and not knowing if they could bury it or not.

Zero2Cool
3 years ago
I would have to think this was planned well in advanced. The timing is just odd, that is all.
beast
3 years ago

"Washington Football team announces they will retire Sean Taylor's No. 21 on Sunday."

Call me a conspiracy theory guy, but the timing of this kind of feels off.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah with only 3 days of an out too, so I'm now confused... if this was previously plan then wouldn't you announce it at least two weeks in advance? Minimum two weeks, unless they weren't sure they could get the family there/on board.

And it's been 14 years... just an odd time, more reason to wait another year to get to 15, or wait until 20, or 21 since he's famous for wearing #21 retire it 21 years after he's gone since you've already waited 14 years.

Either way, they're screwed up muliple times and it seems muliple more times will be coming, especially with Snyder still running the show (unofficially... officially it's his wife).
Mucky Tundra
3 years ago

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers
beast
3 years ago

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Okay, I feel like that's for the win, proof it wasn't planned ahead of time...

Though June to September isn't a long term either for a guy that spent four decades with the team, including being the first African American on the last team that refused to bring an African American to the team... and then got three All-Pro selections for them. Then became a pro-scout at the request of then Redskins head coach Vince Lombardi. Became assistant GM and wanted to become the first African American GM but kept getting passed over and retired in 2003 after being "deeply hurt" over muliple owners passing over him for other options and the new head coach decision to issue a new player his number, which hasn't been issued in many years. The only sad part is they retired his jersey about a year and a half after he passed away... seems like he deserved to see that and it probably is only happening to cover up the bad PR as well.

But yeah 3 days is like a last minute thing, but I'd like to hear something from the family to see how long they knew about it.


These both seem like PR moves right now.
Zero2Cool
3 years ago
From Peter King -- Whoever did it, this point remains, as one prominent plugged-in source told me: “The discipline against Snyder was shockingly light. You suspend Tom Brady when you never proved without a doubt he deflated the footballs, and you don’t suspend Snyder for running that kind of operation in Washington. And Gruden gets ruined. It’s not like Roger’s protecting a guy who’s good for the league anyway. Where’s the fairness?”


This is an excellent point. Tom Brady and Patriots are still called cheaters for things that were not proven, simply because punishment was handed out and well people are sheep.
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3 years ago

From Peter King -- Whoever did it, this point remains, as one prominent plugged-in source told me: “The discipline against Snyder was shockingly light. You suspend Tom Brady when you never proved without a doubt he deflated the footballs, and you don’t suspend Snyder for running that kind of operation in Washington. And Gruden gets ruined. It’s not like Roger’s protecting a guy who’s good for the league anyway. Where’s the fairness?”


This is an excellent point. Tom Brady and Patriots are still called cheaters for things that were not proven, simply because punishment was handed out and well people are sheep.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



That and people hate Boston/New England.
beast
3 years ago
I wrote a very long reply yesterday and the site when down or something on my or wasn't connecting to the host or something and it's gone now :(


I don't have time to rewrite it... main points...

Goodell is ass backwards management, demanding most from the lowest, and the least from the top.

Jerry Jones has a ton of control and is generally friends with Goodell (except that one period) and Dan Snyder.

And didn't former Panthers owner Richardson basically get forced to sell his team for even less?

Though to be fair, Richardson was clearly directly involved, where Snyder MIGHT be able to claim he didn't completely know what was going on, though he's clearly fostered the environment for it.

But if I had to defend them, I think I'd have a much easier time defending Richardson as being an extremely old man who's struggling to get with times and having to learn and grow to mentally get with the 2000s... over there rumored stuff with Snyder and all of their many screw ups.... this has to be simply because Snyder has better connection, more sue happy and always willing to fight.
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3 years ago
The site was down for a little while yesterday. I tried to get in too and was rejected. Damn kids and their protocols. They think they own everything.

Usually my longest posts are lost. Something happens and my screen jumps back a page or the site is down or I lose the internet. Something. Now if I am going to do a Wade type ramble I put it on a word doc first. Some times I use my email program as it spell checks and auto saves.It's better here now that Z has the auto save mode.
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