No surgery for Packers' Alexander, return possible

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

The Green Bay Packers and Jaire Alexander have decided against shoulder surgery - for now - leaving open the possibility that the All Pro cornerback could play again this season.

Continue Reading @ ESPN

ESPN wrote:

Jaire Alexander has to be happy about this. Report was that surgery means potential long-term issues. Healing on it's own is best option for the person.

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yooperfan
Veteran Member

3 years ago

Unfortunately he's still probably going to be out for awhile.

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

3 years ago

Current Mood:

Hoping Jaire can come back healthy this year and most importantly avoid long term damage.

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

wpr
Preferred Member

3 years ago

beast
Select Member

3 years ago

I think it's no surgery for now, as it still has to heal properly, and of it doesn't, surgery is still in his future.

beast
Select Member

3 years ago

I think we'll see them put Alexander on the IR, because the current IR rules let him miss 3 games and come back.

And since I had an AC joint injury, and I think his might be worse than mine (they didn't even consider Surgery on mine), I feel comfortable saying, I'm pretty sure he'll miss at least two week, and probably three. And wouldn't be surprised if four, as it took me about a month to heal.

But if he's not put on the IR, that will bring the question, do they think he might be back in three games?

Though could also mean they think it will clearly be more, so putting him on the IR right away doesn't matter.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

Originally Posted by: beast

Is that unlimited? Regarding IR and three games? Can you do that any amount or just like five?

I wouldn't be surprised to see him on IR either. Next three games he's not that needed VS rest of season and playoffs and longterm.

civic
Member

3 years ago

Anybody worried that they will rush him back for the last dance season? Then Russ Ball low balls him in the off season and Alexander becomes disgruntled. And then he leaves for someone who will pay him the cost of a top flight corner.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

Originally Posted by: civic

I think we have him through 2022 with the fifth year option. Someone will have to fact check me though. But if true, 2023 is when we should see big jump in salary cap. And no Aaron Rodgers soaking up 15-20% of it.

beast
Select Member

3 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

It's a minimum of three games... can any amount, 3 or more, does that answer the question?

Though if they normally do it on Saturdays (like they did for Dafney and MVS) to start it, and pick someone up the following week, so if they're going to put Alexander on the IR, we should be hearing about it today.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yes, Alexander 5th year option of 13,294,000 in 2022.

What the Packers have to figure before 2022 season is Rodgers, Cobb and Preston Smith contract situations, meaning either extend, release or trade those contracts, as they're currently written, I don't believe they're not likely to last. Also maybe figure out Z Smith contract depending on his back injury.

Packers 2022 FAs include (Note I'm not going to list the ERFAs, because they're cheaper contracts and Packers 100% keep them if they want them)

WR Adams
WR MVS
WR Lazard (RFA, so likely gets a one year tender like Tonyan did this year)
TE Tonyan

OG Patrick
OT Kelly

DT Lancaster
ILB Campbell
ILB Jaylon Smith
ILB Burks

CB King
CB Sullivan
CB Yiadom
CB Douglas (new CB we signed off Cardinals PS)
S Redmond

P Bojorquez (please resign)
LS Bradley

Clearly depth at receiver, ILB and CB will be hurt in the coming FA as we're tight on cap and can't resign guys. Possible OLB too with both OLB Smith contracts as possible need adjusting. And DL could be improved in general.

So I'm expecting a defensive draft with a receiver in the top 3 rounds and yes I know the draft isn't about needs, but it kinda is at least they often grab guys at needed positions the following year, especially after the first round.

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wpr (12h) : 5 days

beast (18-Apr) : 6 days

wpr (17-Apr) : 7 days

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that

dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.

dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move

dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately

Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.

dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.

Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb

wpr (9-Apr) : yay

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland

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Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you

Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.

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