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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
It seemed that towards the last part of first half and through second half that Eric Stokes was on the field more often. His guy also wasn't really able to catch the ball. I thought Stokes looked decent and played better in the second half. Even knocking a ball out of the WR's hands on what surely would have been a catch.
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beast
3 years ago
From what I read the Packers broke out the dime defense with 2 DTs, 2 OLBers, 1 ILB, 6 DBs which got Stokes on the field more.

Also putting King and Alexander in the slot at times to open it up for Stokes.

Stokes absolutely has earned more playing time. Though I think the WRs have also dropped some passes before he's hit them and people are getting excited that he forced that, when really it was just a drop, that being said give him credit for being close enough to time it well and he has absolutely knocked some passes down.

Though I think Stokes also gave up a TD with bad communications as I think he was playing man while others were playing zone. But stuff happens and he's not used to being in there.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

From what I read the Packers broke out the dime defense with 2 DTs, 2 OLBers, 1 ILB, 6 DBs which got Stokes on the field more.

Also putting King and Alexander in the slot at times to open it up for Stokes.

Stokes absolutely has earned more playing time. Though I think the WRs have also dropped some passes before he's hit them and people are getting excited that he forced that, when really it was just a drop, that being said give him credit for being close enough to time it well and he has absolutely knocked some passes down.

Though I think Stokes also gave up a TD with bad communications as I think he was playing man while others were playing zone. But stuff happens and he's not used to being in there.

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I saw his guy catch a TD and I saw him knock the ball down twice. Now if WR's dropped passes in addition to that, GOOD! I couldn't give a rats tail as long as the WR isn't catching the ball, it's a win! ;-)

Edit, Kevin King was pushed off on a pass. I forget which one, I think it was a TD.
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Mucky Tundra
3 years ago
He's absolutely earned more playing time. There were miscues but Stokes didn't seem overwhelmed or completely lost on the field. He's gonna take some lumps vs better opponents but he's a rookie so you play him and let him learn.

Stokes absolutely has earned more playing time. Though I think the WRs have also dropped some passes before he's hit them and people are getting excited that he forced that, when really it was just a drop, that being said give him credit for being close enough to time it well and he has absolutely knocked some passes down.

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That's probably the biggest take away from watching him: even if he was out of position, he has the speed to make a play on the ball. An example of this is the comeback route on 4th down at the end of the game that he broke up. That's a play that King struggles to defend.
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3 years ago
I am not sure he can be out there much more than he was. Stokes was on the field 44/57 or 77%. King was out there 56/57 or 98%. They moved Alexander to the slot and put Stokes and King outside.
Like Beast said, they were in dime a lot so they both could play. I think I heard that was 23% of the plays. 2nd most to nickle. Alexander, Amos and Savage were also out there for 57 plays. Sullivan was the odd man out. He was on the field on 18 plays or 23% of the time.

edit- Henry Black was the only other db to play. 2 plays 4%.
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Mucky Tundra
3 years ago

I am not sure he can be out there much more than he was. Stokes was on the field 44/57 or 77%. King was out there 56/57 or 98%. They moved Alexander to the slot and put Stokes and King outside.
Like Beast said, they were in dime a lot so they both could play. I think I heard that was 23% of the plays. 2nd most to nickle. Alexander, Amos and Savage were also out there for 57 plays. Sullivan was the odd man out. He was on the field on 18 plays or 23% of the time.

edit- Henry Black was the only other db to play. 2 plays 4%.

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Maybe it might be more appropriate to say that Green Bay shouldn't return to his snap count vs the Saints (a whopping 8 )
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Maybe it might be more appropriate to say that Green Bay shouldn't return to his snap count vs the Saints (a whopping 8 )

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yooperfan
3 years ago
Did the Packers miss Kevin King?
No they didn’t!!
They won with Stokes on the field!!!
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Did the Packers miss Kevin King?
No they didn’t!!
They won with Stokes on the field!!!

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I think it was early in the preseason when I said Stokes would take over about week 3. Later I gave King more credit than he is due and thought Stokes may take a little longer to get up to speed. In reality it was week 2.
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