Zero2Cool
3 years ago
After reading "The NFL informed clubs today that effective immediately, locker room access while players are present on game day will be limited to 50 people — and no media unless they’re club-affiliated, per source." I've heard a few people speculate that this is the NFL moving forward to eliminating locker room access to reporters.


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beast
3 years ago
It be absolutely shocked if the NFL wanted to completely end locker access as that's where reporters interact and get their information for stories to write. Now, I can limit the access, but not ending it completely.

Plus it's a major time saver compared to having all the players come up to interview one by one and reporters can talk to more than 8 guys.

Plus the NFL wants stories out there ... I just see absolutely no benefits to completely closing locker room down except Covid-19. And teams and players might want it... but not the media, NFL nor owners...
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

It be absolutely shocked if the NFL wanted to completely end locker access as that's where reporters interact and get their information for stories to write. Now, I can limit the access, but not ending it completely.

Plus it's a major time saver compared to having all the players come up to interview one by one and reporters can talk to more than 8 guys.

Plus the NFL wants stories out there ... I just see absolutely no benefits to completely closing locker room down except Covid-19. And teams and players might want it... but not the media, NFL nor owners...

Originally Posted by: beast 



I was at first. Then I heard what some players had to say about it. They are not fans of reporters rushing into the locker room while they are nearly naked (or sometimes naked) and they don't understand it. They would rather be able to have the locker room kept more "sacred" and just be pulled to the podium to be asked questions. The thing is, players that I've been reading and hearing talk about it are not anti-media. They are anti-having men and women in the locker room when they are changing.

They could easily accommodate having two or three people being interviewed in the conference room. Jason Wilde (reporter I admire) is really bent out of shape over this. I tried seeing his point of view, but after hearing some players speaking about it, I kind of side with them.
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wpr
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3 years ago

I was at first. Then I heard what some players had to say about it. They are not fans of reporters rushing into the locker room while they are nearly naked (or sometimes naked) and they don't understand it. They would rather be able to have the locker room kept more "sacred" and just be pulled to the podium to be asked questions. The thing is, players that I've been reading and hearing talk about it are not anti-media. They are anti-having men and women in the locker room when they are changing.

They could easily accommodate having two or three people being interviewed in the conference room. Jason Wilde (reporter I admire) is really bent out of shape over this. I tried seeing his point of view, but after hearing some players speaking about it, I kind of side with them.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



In the past I have heard players from all the major sports say it's no big deal. Guys who don't want to be undressed around the media men and women can change in another area.
That's been years ago. If the tone in the locker room has changed then keep them all out. Trot out a few for sound bites. If a media dude or dudette wants a specific player let them make a request.

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

In the past I have heard players from all the major sports say it's no big deal. Guys who don't want to be undressed around the media men and women can change in another area.
That's been years ago. If the tone in the locker room has changed then keep them all out. Trot out a few for sound bites. If a media dude or dudette wants a specific player let them make a request.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Mark Tauscher said while he would rather not have reporters in there and that most players wouldn't, he did say some players would deliberately wear nothing lol
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beast
3 years ago

Mark Tauscher said while he would rather not have reporters in there and that most players wouldn't, he did say some players would deliberately wear nothing lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Yeah make it awkward for them to ask you questions.

I was at first. Then I heard what some players had to say about it. They are not fans of reporters rushing into the locker room while they are nearly naked (or sometimes naked) and they don't understand it. They would rather be able to have the locker room kept more "sacred" and just be pulled to the podium to be asked questions. The thing is, players that I've been reading and hearing talk about it are not anti-media. They are anti-having men and women in the locker room when they are changing.

They could easily accommodate having two or three people being interviewed in the conference room. Jason Wilde (reporter I admire) is really bent out of shape over this. I tried seeing his point of view, but after hearing some players speaking about it, I kind of side with them.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Just to be clear, I was talking about the NFL and owners... they want maximum press (or maximum non-negative press) as they can get.

I can see players, coaches the football side of it not wanting media in there...

But the business side (which ultimately runs things) wants as much press as possible. And the locker room is a great way to give them access to everyone at once.

Personally, I don't believe media especially cameras belong in the locker room.

I just can't see the NFL willing getting rid of them without some scandal or Union arm twisting them to get rid of it.

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Yeah make it awkward for them to ask you questions.


Just to be clear, I was talking about the NFL and owners... they want maximum press (or maximum non-negative press) as they can get.

I can see players, coaches the football side of it not wanting media in there...

But the business side (which ultimately runs things) wants as much press as possible. And the locker room is a great way to give them access to everyone at once.

Personally, I don't believe media especially cameras belong in the locker room.

I just can't see the NFL willing getting rid of them without some scandal or Union arm twisting them to get rid of it.

Originally Posted by: beast 



What I was hearing on the radio is that the team reporters will be allowed locker room access. The purpose being to help their "brand". So, like Mike Spofford and Wes Hod(however that is spelled) will be able to get locker room interviews.
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3 years ago

Mark Tauscher said while he would rather not have reporters in there and that most players wouldn't, he did say some players would deliberately wear nothing lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah. Going back to the 80s or 90s some players would let their towel "gap". Especially when women reporters were allowed locker room access. But twenty something Alpha males can be a little bit that way.
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beast
3 years ago

What I was hearing on the radio is that the team reporters will be allowed locker room access. The purpose being to help their "brand". So, like Mike Spofford and Wes Hod(however that is spelled) will be able to get locker room interviews.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah but they're all fluff pieces...

They need more than that. At least two people from the top 3 to 5 major newspapers, minimum.
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3 years ago
there is something (or should be something) special about a locker room. Outsiders don't belong.

We had an expression both in high and college for our locker room:
What you say here, what you hear here
Let it stay here, when you leave here


No reporters, agents, family or anyone else. Players, coaches and staff only.


In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
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