Zero2Cool
3 years ago
Some of you probably think I'm this super intelligent (šŸ¤£) dude with incredible contacts within the Green Bay Packers and Aaron Rodgers. Sadly, that's not true. I figured I should compile the sources behind my statements into a new thread to keep it isolated from the emotionally charged rants that dominated other threads. Hey, I get the emotionally charged stuff. Fan is short for fanatic and we LOVE our Green Bay Packers.

Jason Wilde provided one of the most level-headed summarizations of everything that I've heard from anyone. If you want to know the raw details, you should listen to the podcast linked below and also watch the Get Up video.

Wilde went on Homer & Tony 4/30/2021 (listen HERE  @ 15:30 on International House of 98% episode)
- explains he could have broke the story himself, but couldn't get Rodgers go on the record
- explains Schefter didn't want to go public with it and get hung out to dry by Rodgers who could easily deny it later
- explains how Packers were approached by Schefter and tried getting out "in front" of the news
- reiterates Mark Tauscher saying it's easy to say "ain't playing" during the off-season and that changes around training camp
- explains he does not think Rodgers gets traded
- explains parts of the story make Rodgers look bad, even petulant to some degree
- explains Rob Demovsky wrote a story where an agent said Packers are working on a "big thing" and that's why they couldn't sign his client
- explains the proof that Packers contribute to the Schefter story
- states Gutekunst lied to him -- I'm not sure what about, but seems Jason is still very much bothered by it
- says Rodgers believe truth is a weapon

Adam Schefter went on Get Up 4/30/2021 (watch HERE )
- explains this story could have been broken a month ago, or even two months ago
- explains the timing was purely coincidental (he broke it so he would know)
- he thinks Rodgers is upset the story broke
- the 49ers trade talk rumors are why the story had to break

In that podcast, Tony says if the Packers called Rodgers and said we're taking this QB to improve the backup position, not to replace you that it would have helped blow some of the steam off how pissed Rodgers was. I agree with this and I believe Gutekunst does as well because last week he said he should have communicated things better.

BTW, a little tidbit I just saw. Ian Rapoport @RapSheet --The draft is the ultimate what-if. In 2020, #Packers GM Brian Gutekunst targeted a WR. He tried to trade up for LSU WR Justin Jefferson, only to see MIN take him. He watched the #49ers trade up for ASU WR Brandon Aiyuk - another target. Then GB moved up to selectā€¦ Jordan Love.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1389231259596075016 

From NFL Now: Summing up the #Packers situation with QB Aaron Rodgers, who also wanted more input in personnel decisions... and how the Jake Kumerow release (!!) played into it.



AJ Hawk's spot on Pat McAfee Show (watch HERE )
- says that's garbage too I think Rodgers wants Gutey fired. "I definitely do not think that Aaron is out there trying to say fire Gutey"
- says zero percent change Aaron Rodgers retires
- says he's NOT speaking for Aaron Rodgers, just giving his feeling
- says he thinks it can be repaired, but also thinks it's going to be difficult
- says it is NOT about Jordan Love
- says it's tiny little things that the organization failed to do over the years that got us to this point
- says the contract/money is not the catalyst to the disgruntlement of Rodgers, nor that big of a deal

From April 17th, 2018 Read Tweet HERE 
Charles Robinson @CharlesRobinson : Sources close to #Packers QB Aaron Rodgers say heā€™s growing frustrated with management freezing him out of decisions that impact him. And it may already be weighing on contract extension talks.

Davante Adams with a "random" tweet - HERE 
Davante Adams āœ” @tae15adams : Gotta appreciate what u got while ya got it!
And on Instagram Davante posts a goat on a cliff, lol.

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nerdmann
3 years ago
Dude wants to be the guaranteed starter.

Remember last year he went on McAfee and talked about pranking Matt, pretending that his helmet radio was broken? I think he was being passive aggressive, they were sick of the shit.

If Jordan Love was ready, Aaron would already be gone, imo. Aaron's been pulling power plays since Ted was removed.
ā€œWinning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a whileā€¦you do them right all the time.ā€
nerdmann
3 years ago

Look what the Saints and Bucs did.........

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/4/30/22412383/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-trade-buzz-nfl-draft 

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 



I look at it in a greater context. Sure, they could have kept Aaron in the loop, whatever.

I look at it as Matt and Gutey being sick of Aaron's games. Like the thing Aaron talked about, pranking Matt when he was a first year couch.

They say all the right things, but they think Aaron is being a dick. So they're being a dick right back to him. That's WHY they took Love when they did. That's also why Murphy told Aaron, "don't be the problem."

IMO.

Aaron's been on a power trip since he got Ted relieved of his duties. It's quite likely that Gutey even still has a feeling of loyalty to Ted, and his legacy. Again, IMO.
ā€œWinning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a whileā€¦you do them right all the time.ā€
nerdmann
3 years ago
Silverstein said on the Green 19 podcast, the one with the first day of the draft iirc thst he thinks Aaron never forgave Mike McCarthy all those years for drafting Alex Smith over him, when Mike was with the 49'ers.
ā€œWinning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a whileā€¦you do them right all the time.ā€
Cheesey
3 years ago
Iā€™m at the point where I just want it over with, either way.
Dragging this on just frustrates me.
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Mucky Tundra
3 years ago
Anyone else find it amusing/fascinating that the release of Jake Kumerow is the fuse that set this off?
ā€œNah. I like having the island. Itā€™s pretty cool...not too many visitorsā€
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Cheesey
3 years ago

Anyone else find it amusing/fascinating that the release of Jake Kumerow is the fuse that set this off?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Is that truly it? Or is it just an excuse for Rodgers to get his panties in a bunch?
If heā€™s looking for ā€œreasonsā€, he will find them .
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Anyone else find it amusing/fascinating that the release of Jake Kumerow is the fuse that set this off?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



I literally said non-hyperbolic in the thread title and you into it dropping this?!?
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Mucky Tundra
3 years ago

I literally said non-hyperbolic in the thread title and you into it dropping this?!?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



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ā€œNah. I like having the island. Itā€™s pretty cool...not too many visitorsā€
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