MintBaconDrivel
4 years ago

We’re only a few days into Aaron Rodgers' saga with the Green Bay Packers moving into the light, and all options are already on the table for the quarterback.

The reigning league MVP remains adamant that he won’t return to the team under the current stewardship of general manager Brian Gutekunst, a source in Rodgers’ camp said, and that he’s willing to weigh hardline options at his disposal — from refusing to show up for offseason activities to holding out of training camp and possibly retirement.

Asked if anything could be done to repair the relationship between Rodgers and the team, the source said a reconciliation may not be possible if Gutekunst remains and that team president Mark Murphy is aware of the quarterback’s feelings about the general manager.

“The ball is in Mark’s court,” the source said.

The heart of Aaron Rodgers' beef: Jordan Love
The fracture points between Rodgers and Gutekunst largely revolve around the drafting of Jordan Love in 2020 without Rodgers having knowledge of the move. Since then, the source said Rodgers has believed that it was Gutekunst’s plan to move on from him after the 2020 season — but that Rodgers smashed that timeline with his MVP performance. Rodgers’ response, according to the source, was he presented the Packers with an opportunity to re-commit to him after the season with a new contract (with new guaranteed money) that would ultimately cement Green Bay’s “all-in” embrace of him as the starting quarterback for at least the next two seasons. The source said the Packers were not initially willing to consider anything beyond a modest restructure of Rodgers’ contract that would have done little more than guarantee the 2021 season.

Rodgers is entering some of the same territory that Tom Brady trekked near his end with the New England Patriots. That's when Brady began to question the appreciation for his achievements in New England and whether he had any sway over some of the decisions that impacted him. This is part of what convinced Brady he needed a new setting when his contract ultimately came to an end with the Patriots. It’s part of what is driving Rodgers to have his own questions about whether the Packers' front office values him at this stage of his career. That and his suspicion that Gutekunst wants to ultimately move the team toward Love sooner than later has brought Rodgers to the brink of no return.

Could this play out like Carson Palmer's fight with the Bengals?
So what happens next? Well, if Green Bay refuses to make changes in the personnel department or somehow can't find a way to repair Rodgers’ relationship with Gutekunst, then the team’s minicamp in June becomes Rodgers' first opportunity to skip a mandatory team activity. After that, a training camp holdout could follow. And if it’s pushed to the regular season, he could make a retirement declaration to the team, similar to what Carson Palmer engaged in during the 2011 season when he refused to report to the Cincinnati Bengals.

The agent who played a large part in engineering that move for Palmer was David Dunn. It's the same David Dunn who has been Rodgers’ longtime agent. Ultimately, it was Dunn who drew the hard line in the sand for Palmer back in 2011, making it clear to the Bengals that Palmer would rather end his career than continue with the Bengals and team owner Mike Brown. In response, Brown dug in and challenged Palmer to follow through on his retirement, which lasted until the then-Oakland Raiders suddenly needed a quarterback. Dunn helped facilitate a workout for Palmer and the Raiders' coaching staff and then started working the parameters of a deal between Oakland and Cincinnati for Palmer’s rights. A deal was ultimately consummated before the 2011 trade deadline.

If Rodgers and Green Bay dig in heading into the 2021 season, that Palmer scenario could easily play out again.

One key component that can’t be forgotten in Palmer getting dealt from the Bengals was that then-rookie Andy Dalton played very well for Cincinnati in 2011, which helped loosen Brown’s willingness to trade Palmer. Oddly, if this stretches on into a regular-season holdout for Rodgers, it might take a strong start from Love to convince the Packers that they’re ready to pivot to the second-year quarterback.

Regardless of how you frame it, that’s a messy situation for Rodgers and the Packers. Rodgers has yet to say anything publicly about the trade demand that is now out in the open. It’s not beyond the norm for Rodgers to share his feelings with teammates or representatives only to backtrack when some of the things he says privately suddenly get leaked out into the public. Indeed, you could argue Rodgers already tried to backtrack on his feelings once this offseason, seemingly downplaying his frustration about his future during an appearance on "The Pat McAfee Show" earlier this offseason.

Backtracking in that manner now would be difficult. It’s more likely this fracture between Rodgers and the front office heats to a boil in the coming months, with the Packers deciding precisely how much Rodgers means to the immediate future of the organization. One way or another someone is going to come out of this getting what they want. It may just depend on who is willing to take the impasse further into the 2021 football calendar.

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Mucky Tundra
4 years ago
Welp, sounds like the Jordan Love era will begin sooner than expected.
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TheKanataThrilla
4 years ago
Trade effective June so the dead cap split makes it palatable.

I understand wanting control, but this type of move drives me nuts. Create a bunch a noise which will only serve to drive down anything Green Bay can get in trade. Packers should have just dealt him and had it made effective in June and move on with it. The longer they try to communicate with him the worse it gets. It appears once he is scorned the guy has no ability to move on. Still pissed at Gute for over a year ago for drafting Love who mysteriously made you play a whole bunch better? I am pissed you didn't run the ball in or at least attempt to on 3rd down and goal in the NFCCG.
go.pack.go.
4 years ago
I can’t wait to hear something from Rodgers before we believe all of these “reports”. Sorta like the ones that came out about Rodgers & LaFleur not getting along.
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Cheesey
4 years ago

I can’t wait to hear something from Rodgers before we believe all of these “reports”. Sorta like the ones that came out about Rodgers & LaFleur not getting along.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



I think they didn’t get along. But winning covers up this kind of problem.
I wish Rodgers would come out himself and say what the real problem is.
If he’s ticked off at Gute for picking Love, what did he expect? The worst time to need a QB is when you don’t have a backup that you can plug in. It’s not the GMs job to run picks past the QB. The GMs job is to do what he sees as best for the TEAM. The QBs job is to do his job on the field.
You don’t want to be replaced? Then do such a good job that the team would be stupid to replace you.
If the team cans Gute to pleasure Rodgers, it sets a bad precedent. There’s NO WAY the Packers do that.
So if that is the problem, then Rodgers either backs down, he is traded, or he retires.
I wish it would all just go away.
How can we enjoy the draft with this B.S. going on?
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porky88
4 years ago
Rodgers needs to be careful.

He has a lot of goodwill on his side right now. The media is loving every bit of this, hence the constant coverage. To be candid, I don't blame the coverage. This is one of the best QBs of his generation and he's demanding a trade. It's a big story. Regardless of the magnitude of this, the coverage has been generally pro Rodgers and anti Packers. Truly, the Packers aren't in a position in which they can win. If Rodgers returns, then he's a distraction and it won't have a positive impact on the team. If Rodgers doesn't return, then the Packers are fools for not giving him the players he needs to win.

All this goodwill can be destroyed in a moment, however. If Rodgers is really giving Mark Murphy the ultimatum of it's me or Gutey, then that is incredibly petty. It's unprofessional and speaks volumes to the type of person Aaron Rodgers is.

Honestly, I never wanted to believe the Colin Cowherds, Greg Jennings, Jermichael Finleys and all the various critics of Rodgers. Not to say they were right in their criticism, which sometimes bordered on personal attacks and hearsay, but this development has proven that maybe some of the points directed at Rodgers' character may not have been as overblown as many of Rodgers' fans suspected.
nerdmann
4 years ago
Raise your hand if you like your boss.
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warhawk
4 years ago
This whole deal is just a bunch of BS.
First of all I don't feel sorry for Aaron Rodgers and second of all I don't feel sorry for Aaron Rodgers.
First, this "poor Aaron gets no help" narrative is a bunch of garbage. Wilson's crying about no help from his Oline. Can Aaron dare say that? No way. If he did he would have five great big guys at his front door ready to beat his ass.
It's true that Gute has mostly paid attention to the D in the last few years. Is is not also true that every one in the world agreed it was the Green Bay D that was holding this team back? Is there any doubt the Smith Bros., Amos, Alexander, Savage, Gary, and others didn't kind of nudge them closer to a SB? Oh, and who's Aaron Jones, chopped liver?
Secondly, this BS about contacting Rodgers about moving up to draft Love is a joke.
Who knows how many "move up" scenarios are garnered before the draft. So what is Gute supposed to do. So this one on Love happens to come about, "Hey Aaron, I have two minutes here, we are making a call to see if we can move up on Love, you ok with that"? That probably pisses Rodgers more than not calling him at all, and....this is why f'ng players play, f'ng coaches, coach, and, GM,s f'ng find the players.
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go.pack.go.
4 years ago

This whole deal is just a bunch of BS.
First of all I don't feel sorry for Aaron Rodgers and second of all I don't feel sorry for Aaron Rodgers.
First, this "poor Aaron gets no help" narrative is a bunch of garbage. Wilson's crying about no help from his Oline. Can Aaron dare say that? No way. If he did he would have five great big guys at his front door ready to beat his ass.
It's true that Gute has mostly paid attention to the D in the last few years. Is is not also true that every one in the world agreed it was the Green Bay D that was holding this team back? Is there any doubt the Smith Bros., Amos, Alexander, Savage, Gary, and others didn't kind of nudge them closer to a SB? Oh, and who's Aaron Jones, chopped liver?
Secondly, this BS about contacting Rodgers about moving up to draft Love is a joke.
Who knows how many "move up" scenarios are garnered before the draft. So what is Gute supposed to do. So this one on Love happens to come about, "Hey Aaron, I have two minutes here, we are making a call to see if we can move up on Love, you ok with that"? That probably pisses Rodgers more than not calling him at all, and....this is why f'ng players play, f'ng coaches, coach, and, GM,s f'ng find the players.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



Couldn’t agree more with this.
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yooperfan
4 years ago
Ship Rodgers out as soon as it is financially feasible.
It's time to get out from underneath the millstone that is Rodgers contract.
That contract at the time was ridiculous from the get go.
He won one Super Bowl and collapsed in most other big games since then.
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