As with Aaron Jones's contract, the real number will be less. I don't trust King on my team, but he's a place holder. We'll draft at least one CB, and don't forget Josh Jackson. He held up decently last year, and this defense is 80% zone, which plays to his strength.

It strengthens our position going into the draft.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Nope, none of that is true.

Jones real numbers aren't less, unless you mean the cap number, and that's only because the signing bonus spreads the life over the contract.

King's deal is reportedly a one year deal (unless there is voidable fake years built in, which allowed), so even if the signing bonus is spread over the life of the contract, it's still all in one year.

And the last two years the Packers have been running mostly zone coverage, so just because the new system is heavy in zone doesn't nessarily change anything.

And Josh Jackson freaking sucked last year, so much the Packers started making him a healthy scratch towards the end of the season and in the playoffs.

You don't healthy scratch a good player at a very important position, where you also seriously lack of depth.

Originally Posted by: beast 

Jones numbers are what, $14 per year? Iirc his cap hit the first two years are $4 and $10. So that's less than $14. If you are talking about less than King's contract, the $10 would be more, the $4 would be less.

King's deal is $6, but we haven't seen the "real number" on that.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Jackson held up just fine, he had a bad play were he ran step for step to the end zone and got flagged for not turning his head.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Actually you have it backwards... the cap numbers are the fake accounting numbers designed to spread the hits out over time.

If it's a one year deal, then by definition that is the real number, Dollar and Cap. Unless there are incentives involved.

The "real numbers" are what a player actually is getting paid. And the real because by design the fake accounting numbers follows the real one.

Aaron Jones is getting paid an average of $12 million per season.

Aaron Jones REAL paid per year
2021: $14,250,000 ($14,250,000)
2022: $5,750,000 ($20,000,000)
2023: $16,000,000 ($36,000,000)
2024: $12,000,000 ($48,000,000)

Aaron Jones Cap Hit per Year.
2021: $4,500,000
2022: $9,000,000
2023: $19,250,000
2024: $15,250,000

The reason these numbers are fake, are because they spread out the $13 million signing bonus equally, at $3.25 million per year. When in REALITY, Jones pockets all that money in 2021.

Which explains Jones 2021 cap hit. $3.25 million prorated signing bonus + $1 million base salary + $200k roster bonus + $50k workout bonus = $4.5 Cap Accountings Number.

But in reality, Jones bank account gets $14,250,000 and if you release him after this year, you'd have a $9,750,000 dead cap space making up the difference next year.

If by fine, you mean his ass got told stay in street cloths while we really needed a player at his position to step up...

King clearly out played him. Which is while even when King struggled, Jackson didn't even suit up toward the end of the season.

Originally Posted by: beast 

Word is, King's real number is $4.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

And yeah. How much a player gets, doesn't matter to us at all. What's the relevance? What matters to the team is the cap number.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Please cite a source, that there is actually word of this, thank you.
What you fail to comprehend is how much a player gets paid is exectly equal to the players cap number...

So if the cap matters, then what a player gets absolutely does matter. Because all the cap is doing is following the actual real money amount they're getting. It's just delayed a bit by spreading out the signing bonus.

The money is real and can't be manipulated. The cap is just a non-real system for tracking the money, and can be manipulated, which is what they're doing by spreading this out.

So how much money a player pockets absolutely matters if you care about the cap, because honestly, that's all it is. Spreading out how much they pocketed.

The cap is how much money did the player got. Except the amount they got is more correct.

Originally Posted by: beast 

Indeed. Which is why they would rather pay Jones $4 this year and $10 next year 🤣

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Aaron Jones REAL paid per year
2021: $14,250,000 ($14,250,000)
2022: $5,750,000 ($20,000,000)
2023: $16,000,000 ($36,000,000)
2024: $12,000,000 ($48,000,000)

Originally Posted by: beast 

The team has money. They all do. But they have to fit it under the cap.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

And btw, Jones has incentives too.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Here's Rodney's conjecture  on King's contract. If I have time I'll post some others.

More conjecture as to King's real numbers:

Originally Posted by: nerdmann