nerdmann
4 years ago

Someone isn't going to embarrass themselves on national TV, in the playoffs, in a contract year, with the Super Bowl on the line, on purpose.

King had always had his struggles, just Bucs did a better job of exposing them, which wasn't helped by some of the play calls and Safeties.

I don't believe that was on purpose, but if it was on purpose, my guess would be the play caller, not the player. As I believe both outside CBs played inside leverage when you'd least expect them to. Just Alexander handled it better, and King was on a mismatch, as he's always struggled against quickness and speed.

Also, it's too bad we couldn't of had an audible, and had Savage cover the speed WR and King cover the TE. I feel like that would of been better matchups.


And I still don't understand why you have Redmond at FS... that potentially might of cost us the game... of course, having him elsewhere might of been picked on more.

But Redmond dropped one of the easiest INTs of the game before halftime. Then right before halftime, he tripled covered the center of the field, even the guy were already perfectly doubled. This left King in a one on one against speed.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Ask Jenn Sterger why Bert Favor would purposely throw post-season INTs. We didn't know about it until later.
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beast
4 years ago

Ask Jenn Sterger why Bert Favor would purposely throw post-season INTs. We didn't know about it until later.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Sure, give me her number!

Though Sterger covered Favre while on the Jets and they didn't make the post season with Favre... so this probably a dead end...

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4 years ago
A decent summary, warts and all.

Keeping King Makes Some Sense by Michael Rodney @ packernotes.com  

The Green Bay Packers agreed to terms Tuesday with Kevin King on a one-year contract worth $6 million. Many fans won’t like this move – the debacle against Tampa Bay is still way too fresh – but it does make sense. While the 26-year-old may not be elite, he’s been at least an average starter for the majority of the past four seasons. And while the price seems a bit high, just take a look at what other cornerbacks signed for in the past seven days.

Former Cowboy Chidobe Awuzie, who’s never been as good as King, received three years and $21.75 million from Cincinnati. And would spending $10 million per on Ronald Darby (Denver), $8.5 million on 31-year-old Patrick Peterson (Minnesota), or $6.5 million on 30-year old Xavier Rhodes (Indianapolis) be any sounder of an investment?

Look, I admit to not being a big fan of this player. I questioned his ability to cover quick receivers prior to the 2017 draft and thought he was a reach at the top of the second round. That said, he usually does a pretty decent job of defending the deep ball, and he’s not afraid to tackle in the run game. In today’s NFL, that’s enough to get a corner paid.

If King can stay healthy next season, and that’s a huge if considering he’s missed 25 of 64 games in his career, he’ll provide an experienced option opposite All-Pro Jaire Alexander while the Packers develop the young cornerback they’re almost certain to select early in next month’s draft. And if that rookie proves to be better than King, so be it. Every team has a few overpaid veterans on the bench. Heck, just twelve months ago, Gutekunst handed similar money to inside linebacker Christian Kirksey, and he was replaced in December by undrafted free agent Krys Barnes.

My biggest concern about King isn’t what happened versus the Bucs in January; I think a back injury suffered in practice a few days earlier was a factor in his dismal performance. I’m more concerned over the lack of speed he showed at times last season. He sure didn’t look like the guy who ran 4.43 at the Combine. And while speed isn’t everything, it’s obviously important, especially to a tall corner whose length creates issues transitioning cleanly in coverage.



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nerdmann
4 years ago

Sure, give me her number!

Though Sterger covered Favre while on the Jets and they didn't make the post season with Favre... so this probably a dead end...

Originally Posted by: beast 



Because Bert would never ever have done that before?
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beast
4 years ago

Because Bert would never ever have done that before?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


You're just avoiding the issue...

If you got something to say, then say it... no need to tap dance around the issue.
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yooperfan
4 years ago
Well here’s to 6 million dollars shot in the ass.
The guy can’t tackle and is always injured.
He can’t even play the corner position very well.
And the Packers are supposed to win a Super Bowl spending that kind of money on a guy like King!
earthquake
4 years ago

I looked over the Mike Clay list in the 2021 Free Agent thread. Maybe Malcom Butler PFF 71.6; Brian Poole 77.1 or perhaps Bashaud Breeland 67.7 would have worth a look.
KK's PFF grade was 55.7.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I was hoping for Bashaud Breeland. Heck, I was hoping for Breeland 2 years ago. If Breeland is in GB the last two years, do they make it one more game? His cap hit was about ~2.3m per year over that period so it's not like it was a luxury they couldn't afford.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago
With King at CB2 this is gonna just inflate Jaire price tag because teams won't throw at CB1 when CB2 let's dudes wide open. Might as well just tank!!!
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nerdmann
4 years ago

Well here’s to 6 million dollars shot in the ass.
The guy can’t tackle and is always injured.
He can’t even play the corner position very well.
And the Packers are supposed to win a Super Bowl spending that kind of money on a guy like King!

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



As with Aaron Jones's contract, the real number will be less. I don't trust King on my team, but he's a place holder. We'll draft at least one CB, and don't forget Josh Jackson. He held up decently last year, and this defense is 80% zone, which plays to his strength.

It strengthens our position going into the draft.
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beast
4 years ago

As with Aaron Jones's contract, the real number will be less. I don't trust King on my team, but he's a place holder. We'll draft at least one CB, and don't forget Josh Jackson. He held up decently last year, and this defense is 80% zone, which plays to his strength.

It strengthens our position going into the draft.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Nope, none of that is true.

Jones real numbers aren't less, unless you mean the cap number, and that's only because the signing bonus spreads the life over the contract.

King's deal is reportedly a one year deal (unless there is voidable fake years built in, which allowed), so even if the signing bonus is spread over the life of the contract, it's still all in one year.

And the last two years the Packers have been running mostly zone coverage, so just because the new system is heavy in zone doesn't nessarily change anything.

And Josh Jackson freaking sucked last year, so much the Packers started making him a healthy scratch towards the end of the season and in the playoffs.

You don't healthy scratch a good player at a very important position, where you also seriously lack of depth.
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