TheKanataThrilla
4 years ago

That’s what I hate about today’s NFL. You develop players, and if they turn out to be really good, you can’t keep them.
If they are at best average, THOSE are the ones you can afford to keep.
That sucks.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I agree that sucks, but unlike other sports you at least get a comp draft pick. I grew up a Montreal Expos fan and it felt like you were a fan of a major league farm team. Even though we had some amazing teams and players as soon as a contract was due they were gone with no compensation because they just couldn't compete financially.
dyeah_gb
4 years ago
Let Miami overpay for AJ when their offense is nothing like Green Bay's Then when it is a bust, we can buy him back at a discount in 3 yrs.
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4 years ago

That’s what I hate about today’s NFL. You develop players, and if they turn out to be really good, you can’t keep them.
If they are at best average, THOSE are the ones you can afford to keep.
That sucks.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I know you are talking about more than Jones and the running back situation but let's look at this for now. Money aside. Let's pretend there is no cap.

Through 15 games in 2020 Green Bay has averaged 33 passes and 28 runs a game.

Tell me how you want to divide them up per player?

My first question is do you want Rodgers throwing the ball more, less or the same?

If he is playing like he did this season, I don't want him to throw it less. If he throws it more then there are less plays for the running backs. So for right now I will pretend it is exactly he same breakdown.

28 running plays. How do you want them divided up? Jones deserves at least 15-18. If he does what he did last night Dillion deserves 15-18 as well. Even using the low end numbers it's over the 28 per game average.

Where does that leave Williams? He has merit for this team. There have been a few times when they needed his play to win games. They can't simply stick him on a shelf and bring him out 2-3 times a year. He won't produce.

Looking at the top 10 RB this year, except for Henry and Cook, they are typically getting around 16 carries a game. Jones is about 14 a game.

No matter how much we like a player, sometimes it is necessary to let them go. We will welcome him back with open arms when he is inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame. Hornung went to the expansion New Orleans Saints. Vince and he cried when it happened.
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beast
4 years ago
I'm glad y'all like AJ, because as a rookie we got him for three more years ;)

Aaron Jones vs AJ Dillon lol

More reason we need to keep both, the AJ brothers lol or as Kevin Greene would call AJ Hawk... A to the J... and we can have Hawk remote interview them lol
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Rockmolder
4 years ago

Sorry to go against the grain here, but RBs are dispensable. We won the Super Bowl with Ben Wilson and Donny Anderson.

I can see a very bright future with Dillon, Williams, and a pick up or draft picks. After all, where did we draft Jones and Williams?

Also, there are a lot of experienced RB's who would love to have a crack at a Super Bowl in GB. I am not willing to pay a guy that much money for a relatively small incremental difference and short shelf life.

There is not an infinite supply of cap dollars I would much rather spend the discretionary dollars on a stud right tackle and IDLman.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



I fully agree. I'd love to keep Jones. He's been great and the YPC he's putting up is ridiculous, but there's barely any back I'd give $12 million a year. Especially if you have an o-line and scheme in place that makes Jamaal Williams look like a decent football player.

Dillon was a 2nd rounder for a reason. You want him to carry the load at some point. We can get a scatback later in the draft to complement the two guys we have on the roster.

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