Defensive leaders have a chat with Pettine

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

As some have speculated, some of the soft play in the 4th quarter was the coach's fault not inept play on the field.

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beast
Select Member

4 years ago

Not sure who's fault it was... but looked like the team thought the lead was out of reach and got lazy... though that was only one defensive drive, where I believe the QB made two different 4th down plays... and he was more athletic than the main QB they planned to play... and the other TD given up was on STs... but offense suddenly struggled too. All three phases seemed different that for a couple of drives.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

4 years ago

Originally Posted by: beast

The “lazy” point seems like it could be true. They seemed to take their foot off the gas.
Aaron Jones made the game saving play with that long TD run.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

4 years ago

This reminds me of 2010 season. The defensive players went to Dom Capers saying they were having communication issues due to the complexity of the defense. They asked to scale it back so they can just trust their talent. That is why we saw the change in the defense during the end of that season. Things were simplified. You'll hear me pound that drum until I cannot pound anymore. Let players play, don't make them think on the field, let them react.

packerfanoutwest
Member

4 years ago

Luckily Hurts did not start the game, because this defense does not know how to contain a scrambling QB. They were up 23-3 in the 4th qtr, then they started playing soft D, and 9 plays later and a 32 td pass, 23-10. Then our lower scoring team in 2nd halfs, (only 3 last week) punts the ball after MVS dropped that beautiful pass. Reagor returns punt for 73 yds and a td, 23-16(7pt game). Luckily Jones took care of business. This doesn't explain the 4th quarter, but this Defense did not do what they wanted to do after their talk with Pettine.........What is wrong with the defense, is it Pettine, lack of talent or combo of both?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

4 years ago

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest

I absolutely agree! If Jalen Hurts started, the Eagles would have returned two or three punts for touchdowns! The guy is amazing.

beast
Select Member

4 years ago

Luckily Jones took care of business. This doesn't explain the 4th quarter, but this Defense did not do what they wanted to do after their talk with Pettine.........What is wrong with the defense, is it Pettine, lack of talent or combo of both?

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest

So offensive had muliple bad drives...
ST gave up an easy touch down

And we're blaming the defense who gave up one touchdown on a tough drive with what I believe was muliple 4th down converted?

Defense gave up 10 points all game...

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

4 years ago

Defense gave up 10 points all game...

Originally Posted by: beast

Which is why we must be thankful Jalen Hurts didn't start otherwise it would have been 30!

I'm only teasing around here. I think packerfanoutwest is starting to excited about this Packers team and such comments are a defense mechanism of not getting his hopes too high. Shit, we all remember 2014. I still punch puppies because of that damn game!!

KRK
Veteran Member

4 years ago

Hurts is a developing quarterback with decent wheels...thats all.
Alexander and Savage were beaten on the td.
Their OL was banged up, missing their all pro left tackle.
Overall, a much better effort, but lets see how they do against Stafford/Lions, a better test

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

packerfanoutwest
Member

4 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

You see it your way, I see it my way. Just think about how many more SB trophies would be in Lambeau if the Packers would have fired McCrappy after that game......

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