Colin Cowherd: The Green Bay Packers Are Not an Elite Team· Page 2

bboystyle
Member

5 years ago

i hate hot takes like "as good as your record"

Thats for teams that play against a weak schedule (Pats and Niners)

Packers are 7-1 with a very hard schedule playing against playoff bound teams. Screw the ESPN hot takes and doubters. We would normally fold vs good teams. Not this year. Cant wait until we beat the Niners and shut everyone up. Thats a team that isnt as good as their record. Who have they faced? Rams? yea they aint the same Rams of yesteryear. Panthers? Yea good job beating a rookie QB and a bad defense.

Same with Pats. at least with the Pats they have a history of winning in todays games vs good teams.

And we had a history of losing games vs good teams. Not anymore though. This team can make a run with its defense. U dont need to be top 5 in every category to win. QB pressure and turnovers and points allowed can win u championships.

the 2011 Giants, for example, were 29th overall ranked defense going into the playoffs. The only stats they were good in is getting to the QB, and getting turnovers. Something our D can do. If we click at the right time, we can make a run.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#12

Pettine's strategy was to play a lot of soft zone, blitz very little and keep KC's playmakers from getting huge plays.
The strategy worked.
Anybody who thinks The Packers are going to hold every team under 20 points is dreaming.

There are going to be some games where The Offense is just going to have to outscore the other team.
That's just the way it is in todays NFL.

The League wants points!
The fans want points!

Seems The Offense has come together and is clicking on all cylinders.

The Defense just has to keep creating turnovers and The Packers will be just fine.

Cowherd is a joke!

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

Pack93z
Select Member

5 years ago

#13

It is like the "talking heads" forget that teams have talent beyond the QB or starters.

The Chiefs have been considered a SB contender going into the season, part of that consideration is the overall talent on the roster. Just because the starting QB goes down, does not change the elite speed that KC has on the edges of the offense. Or that they may have a offensive line that is NFL quality.

Nah, it starts and ends only with the QB.

Is Green Bay elite? Not sure at this point; but they are 7-1 and has pieces and depth in most places to compete and win weekly. I will take it.

PS. KC is a bit disappointing on the defensive side of the ball... for a team that seemingly has the talent to compete in the AFC for a shot in January, they have under performed thus far. Yeah, I know. Injuries. Part of the gauntlet of the NFL is dealing with attrition.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

FLORIDA PACKER88
Member

5 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Agreed. The Zone was actually working fairly well in many instances. One of the things that absolutely killed us was poor of tackling. Many times the stop was there, but poor angles struck. It largely kept guys in check. D just has to make those tackles!

warhawk
Senior Member

5 years ago

#15

As Buckeye said Pettine went with a soft zone to keep KC's playmakers in front of the defenders. Not going to win a lot of style points that way but gave them the best chance for a W. KC did all their damage in the 2nd quarter when Reed came up with a lot of creative plays that seemed to throw the Packers pass rush off. I read somewhere that KC only managed like 107 yards in the 2nd half and they got the 1 TD after Tramon went to the face mask on 4th down that would have stopped that scoring drive.
Moore did play one good quarter and they punched the Packers right in the mouth. Playing away from home in a place like KC this game could have been a Chiefs blowout the way the came back in the 2nd quarter.
There is no single definition of an "elite" team. I would think being on the road in one of the loudest stadiums in the league and shutting the home team down after a huge rally and momentum swing may qualify, in part, of the definition "elite". Regardless, the character they showed with the challenges they faced will serve them well down the road. Certainly more so than playing cupcakes every week.

"The train is leaving the station."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

#16

I don't think we are elite, but I also don't care if we win pretty or ugly. That Lombardi looks the same regardless if you win by 1 point as it does if you win by 20 points.

Porforis
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#17

I don't think we are elite, but I also don't care if we win pretty or ugly. That Lombardi looks the same regardless if you win by 1 point as it does if you win by 20 points.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I am pretty sure the Packers' last like, 6 years have taken a combined 10 years off of my life so far though. Can we just blow everybody out every week if for no other reason than my health?

wpr
Preferred Member

5 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: FLORIDA PACKER88

Memo to the Packers defense: PLEASE TACKLE!

beast
Select Member

5 years ago

#19

It is like the "talking heads" forget that teams have talent beyond the QB or starters.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

Completely, talking heads only want to talk about the big names, no one else.

I remember when I HAD to stop watching ESPN's talking heads and I really have never fully went back...

Their programs were paid out something like this (not counting advertising)
50% = Tim Tebow
45% = Rest if the QBs
5% = The rest of the NFL

That was just F'n unbelievable!

gbguy20
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#20

When I quit watching it was more like 95% Tebow, 5% everything else.....every day of the week for a year. Have not gone back. That was the start of the death of ESPN.

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