dfosterf
15 years ago
Ryan Pickett is hopefully a nose tackle.

Who else?

Every Packer fan should be asking themselves this question.

It's a toughy.
bozz_2006
15 years ago
who else is a nose tackle?

Fred Bledsoe? Alfred Malone? BJ Raji?
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dfosterf
15 years ago
Keeping in mind that in addition to some suspect knees, Pickett was running into endurance difficulties in a 4-3, is a little light in the pants for a prototypical 3-4 NT (imo---look around the league at the size of 'em)

Raji is probably going off the board to the Bengals at 6--- has never played a down as a 3-4 NT (nor has anyone else on the horizon that I'm aware of, including Pickett)

Malone is way too small, imo, Bledsoe hasn't cut it as a 4-3 Tackle, but has put on 20lbs+ (of what?!) No one seems to care....

The question is who will be OUR nose tackle(s). Not who is a nose tackle in name-only.

Not directed at you, Bozz, at least you are trying to answer the q.

So am I.

Everyone else seems to want to play BPA, which I guess I understand, but don't get confused about why we cannot run the 3-4 next year as a result of failing to address this question. The NT is the LYNCHPIN of the 3-4 and I don't care if JC himself is the defensive coordinator, without a viable NT, there will BE NO 3-4 defense.

imo


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Cheesey
15 years ago
Geez.....a nose tackle.........i was hoping to have someone that could tackle the entire body.
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dfosterf
15 years ago
It's friggin' miller time. I need beer. Can you tell?
Cheesey
15 years ago

It's friggin' miller time. I need beer. Can you tell?

"dfosterf" wrote:


With my response.....you can tell i feel the same way!
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Pack93z
15 years ago
Foster.. here is another decent article looking at picks and the slots they fit into a 3-4...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/04/nfp-specialty-rankings-3-4-defense/ 
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dfosterf
15 years ago
Thanks, Z. I'm so busy complaining, I didn't even make it over to NFP this AM.

As a strong proponent of improving our offensive line, to the point of absolute zealotry, I have concluded that the best course of action is to try by hook and by crook to get all three.

Raji, Brace and Baker.

That should take care of NT and DE ...hopefully.


That's how bad it is, imo.

Reason being, just about everything else is fixable...remaining draft, FA, cast-offs, etc.

If it's "only" two of the three, I want Baker as the second one, not Raji and Brace...leaning more towards Brace and Baker instead of Raji and Baker.

Edit #2

Keeping in mind that I'm the Duke Robinson, Alex Mack, Herman Johnson guy...lol

Check back with me in an hour for updates, I haven't got the beer yet. lol
Packers_Finland
15 years ago
I'm pretty confident Raji will be avaivable to us, if there are no trades. Bengals would probably go for Eugene Monroe, unless he's been taken before. I don't think we should get him though, Michael Oher is a far more valuable player to us I think right now.
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
I'm with Fin. Bengals lost stacey andrews and I think they'll feel the need to replace him now. I don't think they'll take Raji over Monroe.
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