Zero2Cool
6 years ago
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Packers President and CEO Mark Murphy says his team's efforts to trade for Khalil Mack a year ago were thwarted primarily by the Raiders' perception that the Bears would have a higher first-round draft pick. Murphy told 105.7 The Fan that the Packers made a big offer to the Raiders for Mack, but the Raiders [more]

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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
Sometimes yhe best trades are the ones you didn't make!

Packers are better off.


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nerdmann
6 years ago
Bears gave up too much.
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6 years ago

Bears gave up too much.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Agreed.

On the flip side is it possible that GB would have had an improved defense and the bares a weaker one if Mack played 4 hours to the north? 5 1/2 game difference is a lot over a 16 game season. But it is easy to pretend GB would have been 3 games "better" and Chicago 3 games "worse". If so, Oakland would have been right. They forgot the improvement factor Mack brought to the teams.

Like John Wayne said in The Undefeated,

Windage and elevation, Mrs. Langdon; windage and elevation.

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gbguy20
6 years ago
I'm glad we didn't make the move to be honest.
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DoddPower
6 years ago
I can't imagine Mack wouldn't have swung both teams records at least a little.
beast
6 years ago
Well if Mack had gone to the Packers instead of the Bears, then the Packers probably would of had the better record... as there lost a number of close games where Mack might of been the differences maker...

But as I believe I said during the Mack to Packers talk, that price is just too much, two 1st round picks AND all the money. I mean we could of had

~ OLB Khalil Mack ($23.5 million per year)
~ 2020 2nd round pick (estimated slightly less than $1.7 million per year)
~ 2020 conditional 5th round pick (might not get because they're having success)
for about 25.2 million per year (maybe a bit more with the conditional pick)

OR

~ OLB Za'Darius Smith ($16.5 million per year)
~ OLB Rashan Gary (slightly less than $4 million per year)
~ CB Ka'dar Hollman (slightly less than $675 thousands per year)
~ 2020 1st round pick (estimated slightly less than $4 million per year)
~ 2020 3rd round pick ((estimated slightly less than $967 thousands per year)
for less than $26.2 million per year


Also could switch Za'Darius Smith ($16.5) out and put in OLB Preston Smith ($13 million per year) and it might look even better.


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sschind
6 years ago
We will never know if it would have been a good or bad trade for the Packers. All we can do is speculate and make rationalizations as to why it is a good thing we didn't get him. In the next few years if the Packers defense makes a big improvement we can argue that we were better off without him but we can't know how much better, or worse, we may have been with him.

I am perfectly OK with us not getting him. The picks and the money were simply too much but I would not have been crying in my beer if we had made the trade either. It all depends on how the defense develops from here on out and I like the way it is shaping up.
Cheesey
6 years ago
Maybe had we got Mack, maybe we wouldn’t have had all the changes we had. We have a new coach and a lot to look forward to.
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nerdmann
6 years ago

I can't imagine Mack wouldn't have swung both teams records at least a little.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



That season was a throwaway season anyway. Mike got his way, and showed us what he had, which was nothing whatsoever.

Give up 2 #1's to add three wins and still miss the playoffs? Not worth it. Going forward it won't have been worth it either. 👍
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