KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member
5 years ago
This is a really interesting thread with some great perspectives.

I think the most interesting is that if we had been 3-4 games better, we would still be with the old regime. For that reason alone I am glad it didn't happen.

Its like when I was hot on this girl Trixie Laroux....I would have liked to........but she turned down my overtures.... it didn't happen, even though I wanted it to.....and now I have a wonderful wife.

As BPF banged out:

Sometimes the best trades are the ones you didn't make!

even if you wanted to make them.
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
TheKanataThrilla
5 years ago
If Mack is on the Packers chances are Aaron doesn't get hurt. Healthy Aaron and the whole season is probably different.

Then again, the way the season went down helped make the coaching changes we should have made a couple of years ago.
beast
5 years ago

If Mack is on the Packers chances are Aaron doesn't get hurt. Healthy Aaron and the whole season is probably different.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 

I honestly think Rodgers injury as the cause of the struggled season is being overblown, the guy looked like his normal great self at times early on when he had veteran WRs to work with and that was right after the injury.


Rodgers sucked more, not around the injury time, but when he had to play with the rookie WRs whom he wasn't on the same mental page as and didn't seem to trust half as much, as Rodgers (especially in the Seahawks game) almost refusing to throw it to the RB unless it was a design play to get the running back open (cus the Seahawks didn't even pretend to cover the RBs if they didn't go so far down the field, and left them wide open cus they knew Rodgers wasn't looking there).

MM didn't use designed plays to get guys open, so it was all up to Rodgers and his chemistry and trust with guys, and Rodgers struggled to take any chances with the rookies, instead deciding to hold onto the ball even longer looking for something better.



Which is one thing Rodgers has to get better at, as this new system will have a lot of designed plays to go to specific areas or passing to the RB instead of scanning the entire field looking for the best down field matchups. So Rodgers might actually have to take the ball out of his hands more often and trust others for the greater good of the system.
UserPostedImage
warhawk
5 years ago
I agree that the Packers probably win a couple more games with Mack last year. I was not in favor of this move because this team was not one player away from being a contender. There were multiple holes to fill in the starting lineup and lacking depth at several positions.
Mathews and Perry were killing us with what they were being paid, we had no safeties, and the Oline was very thin at both G spots and swing T. These areas have been addressed in FA along with talent in the draft that probably wouldn't be on this team had they won a couple three more games.

Put it this way I don't think Pettine is crying over the fact he has the Smith's and Gary to work with and not Mack. I wonder if Savage would be on this team had they gotten Mack and won a few more games.

I just see this team winning more games this year and years to come the way it's trending with no Mack in the picture. Admittedly, I am not big on mortgaging high draft picks and particularly at this juncture with where the team stood talent wise. It robs a team of depth and potential. I get it with the Bears and Trubisky still on a rookie contract. Thanks but no thanks.


"The train is leaving the station."
Zero2Cool
5 years ago
What games would Mack have tilted in our favor? The Vikings game?
UserPostedImage
sschind
5 years ago

What games would Mack have tilted in our favor? The Vikings game?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




What games would he have tilted in our favor? Its difficult if not impossible to say. What games could he have tilted in our favor? Who knows, maybe all of them. A sack, a strip sack, a fumble recovery an extra pressure here or there all could make a big difference. Especially if they happen on a drive that resulted in an eventual TD for the opposing team. They may have recovered or they may not have. There is simply no way to know which games may have ended differently if we had Mack. Who knows, we may have even lost more.

Zero2Cool
5 years ago

What games would he have tilted in our favor? Its difficult if not impossible to say. What games could he have tilted in our favor? Who knows, maybe all of them. A sack, a strip sack, a fumble recovery an extra pressure here or there all could make a big difference. Especially if they happen on a drive that resulted in an eventual TD for the opposing team. They may have recovered or they may not have. There is simply no way to know which games may have ended differently if we had Mack. Who knows, we may have even lost more.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I guess I can't really remember a game last season where I thought dang if our defense was just a little better on the pass rush we'd have won. I felt the offense was big issue.
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
5 years ago

I guess I can't really remember a game last season where I thought dang if our defense was just a little better on the pass rush we'd have won. I felt the offense was big issue.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



If for no other reason, Aaron wouldn't have faced such a tenacious pass rush in week 1. He wouldn't have been hindered with an injury and would in all probability been more effective all year.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
5 years ago
I don't think Mack would have put us over the edge. We couldn't even make the playoffs without him. Now if we got to the 2nd round of the playoffs, I'd be thinking ya on to something.

We were far more than a Mack from being contenders.
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
5 years ago

I don't think Mack would have put us over the edge. We couldn't even make the playoffs without him. Now if we got to the 2nd round of the playoffs, I'd be thinking ya on to something.

We were far more than a Mack from being contenders.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Absolutely. My only contention is that GB MIGHT have had a better record than the bares. But it is all conjecture. You know, the stuff that makes up 90% of the internet discussion boards. My original comment was more than likely GB would not be 6 games better but they might have been 3 games better (9-6-1) and da bares 3 games worse (9-7). It wouldn't have all been because of Mack. A healthier Rodgers would have been a factor as well.

Would I have wanted Gute to make the deal Chicago did and give away so much? No. But that is another issue for another thread. And this site does have space for a few more threads.

UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (now) : Regarding ZT at C, Gute had said he felt C was ZTs best position after he was drafted.
Zero2Cool (38m) : LB Oren Burks to sign a 2-year, $5M deal with the Bengals.
Zero2Cool (40m) : Based on how it was worded at the time, probably scout.
beast (1h) : I don't think the media person ever told the public the source, but Gute or LaFleur did say they thought Tom has earned his spot at OT
beast (1h) : I think it was supposedly unnamed Packers source
buckeyepackfan (1h) : Was that Gute or Lefleur or someone else?
buckeyepackfan (1h) : Zach Tom could be a really good guard, an all pro tackle, but probably be a HOF Center. Who said that?
Zero2Cool (1h) : It's March 10th. I don't think anything is done.
Martha Careful (2h) : if we think CB is done, we have a poor roster
Mucky Tundra (2h) : CB and OG in FA, narrows down the top of the draft board a little
Martha Careful (2h) : Meh....I hope we can get Ward 49ers or Murphy Vikings
Zero2Cool (2h) : Yes
Martha Careful (2h) : did Nate Hobbs just sign with us CB Raiders?
Zero2Cool (2h) : Jets have agreed to terms with former Ravens CB Brandon Stephens
Zero2Cool (2h) : Aaron Banks’ PFF grade was 0.1 worse than Elgton Jenkins last year.
Zero2Cool (2h) : Muwahaha
Zero2Cool (2h) : Oh awesome! Nostrawrongus says 4th so SUPER BOWL ON TRACK!!
dhazer (3h) : to be honest the freee agent market isnt that great this year so I can handle a 500 yr or sub 500 is fine, i see us as 4th in division
dhazer (3h) : Hi Dave long time no see
Mucky Tundra (3h) : Slaton to the Begals=Guaranteed Big Boy in the first 3 rounds
Mucky Tundra (3h) : WE SIGNED SOMEONE!!!!!!1!
Zero2Cool (3h) : Former #Packers DT TJ Slaton headed to the #Bengals on a 2-year $15.1M deal.
Zero2Cool (3h) : 4-year $77M for Packers new guard Aaron Banks
Zero2Cool (3h) : OL Patrick Mekari to sign with the Jaguars.
Zero2Cool (4h) : oops
Zero2Cool (4h) : Josh Sweat to Cardinals
Martha Careful (4h) : Josh Sweat to the Arizona Cardinals.
Mucky Tundra (4h) : Surprises the Seahawks signed Darnold for that money
buckeyepackfan (4h) : Depends on what Kupp is igned for.
Martha Careful (4h) : The Bears are adding to their defensive line. Chicago is signing former Colts pass-rusher Dayo Odeyingbo to a three-year, $48 million deal
Zero2Cool (4h) : Free agent DT Poona Ford to the #Rams on a 3-year, $30M
dfosterf (4h) : Imo cooper kupp is pretty much stupid money spending
Zero2Cool (4h) : Dayo Odeyingbo to the Bears
Zero2Cool (4h) : oops
Zero2Cool (4h) : CB Darius Slay to sign with the Steelers
buckeyepackfan (4h) : Justin Fields to The Jets!
Martha Careful (4h) : Justin Field to the Jets
buckeyepackfan (4h) : Cooper Kupp! After all the stupid money is spent.
Zero2Cool (4h) : Colts are signing Vikings S Cam Bynum
buckeyepackfan (4h) : "Stupid Money" week underway. Let's see if Gute can pluck another gem this year. #8 & #29 last year, who can it be this year? My money is on
Martha Careful (4h) : Former Eagles cornerback Darius Slay is signing with the Steelers, per Jordan Schultz.
Martha Careful (4h) : Sam Darnold is off to the Seattle Seahawks. It’s a three-year, $110.5 m 55m guaranteed.
beast (5h) : Yeah, Adebo has high risk, high reward, longs of INTs but also lots of getting burned deep... I was going to be surprised if we overpaid him
beast (5h) : Adams is from greater Standford area, but when to College in Fresno
Martha Careful (5h) : scratch that...he just signed with the giants
Martha Careful (5h) : Multiple NFL experts assert former Saints standout Paulson Adebo is Packers top choice.
beast (5h) : Rodgers always said he thought it would be very cool to play for the Steelers head coach
Martha Careful (5h) : Boooo
Zero2Cool (5h) : CB DJ Reed to Lions
Zero2Cool (6h) : Packers reporter saying don't be surprised if Packers keep Alexander
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
22m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

6-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

4-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

4-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

4-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

3-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

3-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.