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5 years ago

It seems that national writers forget about a certain receiver who’s returning from injury when doubting the Packers’ pass-catchers. The Green Bay Packers  chose to address their defense in the first round of the 2019 NFL Draft , selecting a pass-rusher and a safety with their two day-one picks. Then the team passed up on some talented receivers in round two, grabbing an offensive lineman in Elgton Jenkins.
For some NFL writers and analysts, particularly those who cover the league at large rather than the Packers specifically, this has been painted as a mistake by general manager Brian Gutekunst. After all, the Packers have one star receiver in Davante Adams  and little else.
Or so they would have their readers believe.
Football Outsiders, which employs a talented and intelligent collection of writers, has also made this argument. In an article published on ESPN.com this week discussing each team’s most significant roster hole , they criticized the Packers’ decisions to avoid acquiring a top receiving option either through free agency or the first few rounds of the draft. Here’s what they had to say about the Packers:

It is tough to fault the Packers for doubling down on defense with Rashan Gary and Darnell Savage Jr. in the first round. After bringing in an offense-minded head coach in Matt LaFleur, the belief may be that LaFleur can do a better job of maximizing the current offensive talent than Mike McCarthy did.
Still, the sacrifice of investing so heavily in defense is that the Packers did not draft a pass-catcher until the third round, when they took tight end Jace Sternberger. Considering many tight ends struggle to contribute much right out of the gate, Sternberger likely does not move the needle for the offense in 2019. Jimmy Graham , who disappointed last year, will still be the primary tight end. Furthermore, Green Bay did not invest at all at wide receiver despite losing Randall Cobb . Aside from Pro Bowler Davante Adams , the Packers’ wide receiver corps is thin and inexperienced.

There are legitimate reasons for concern in this group, to be sure. Last season, a crop of rookies was forced into significant action earlier than the team likely anticipated, due in large part to a season-ending injury to Geronimo Allison. However, Allison’s return is precisely the reason why this supposed lack of depth and experience is overblown.
Allison has the potential to be the true game-changer among this group, and he was doing just that last season before he landed on injured reserve. He was averaging four receptions and over 60 yards per game, numbers that jump to 4.8 and 72 if you ignore the week 7 game against the Rams  (when Allison was injured for good early on). Furthermore, Allison was setting career highs by catching two-thirds of his targets and recording 10.1 receiving yards per target. That last stat, if he had sustained it over a full season, would have put him in a tie for 14th among all qualifying NFL players last year.
Putting those stats in contrast with Allison’s stats from his first two seasons makes it clear that he was in the midst of a breakout, which coincided with his expanded role as the Packers’ #2 boundary receiver. In 2016 and 2017, Allison averaged just 1.4 receptions and 18 receiving yards per game; those numbers tripled in 2018. His catch rate jumped ten points, up from 57%. Allison also did some of that damage from the slot, where he will likely see some more work in 2019 with Randall Cobb  gone.
One of the Packers’ oft-discussed issues in 2018 was a lack of trust between the Packers’ coaches, quarterback, and young receivers. If Allison, a player whom Aaron Rodgers  has grown to trust, had remained on the field, it’s easy to imagine the Packers’ offense functioning better. The team’s rookie receivers would have played a more complementary role, rather than being asked to step in as starters immediately, entirely changing the complexion of the offense.
For 2019, however, Allison should be a focal point of the passing game opposite Adams. The development of Marquez Valdes-Scantling  and Equanimeous St. Brown  probably will — and should — take a handful of snaps and targets away from Allison, but downplay his return at your own peril.


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Continue Reading @ [url=https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2019/5/7/18535254/packers-geronimo-allison-return-injury-breakout-potential-quiet-critics-wide-receiver-group]Evan "Tex" Western 

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Here's to Allison having a breakout season.
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buckeyepackfan
5 years ago
He was on his way last year
Davante will get doubled, Jimmy Graham could be a force.
Geranimo could see a lot of single coverage.
He stays healthy, he could have a huge year.

We could be looking at the rebirth of THR BIG 5 if EQ, MVS and G-Mo cam make thst 3nd year jump.

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There will probably be learning moments early, but as Aaron said, no grace period.

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sschind
5 years ago
After all, the Packers have one star receiver in Davante AdamsP and little else.

That's because, IMO, they do have Davante Adams and little else. Allison could be very good and yes he was doing well before he got injured last season but he still has not proven himself.

He could develop into a solid #2 man or he could fizzle out. Its not as if you are looking at the Packers receiving group of Adams, Kumerow, Valdez Scantling, St Brown, and Moore plus whoever else they have and you think man that's not a strong group after Adams and then you go "oh crap, I forgot about Allison. that changes everything." It may not be quite as bad but its still not really good.
go.pack.go.
5 years ago

After all, the Packers have one star receiver in Davante AdamsP and little else.

That's because, IMO, they do have Davante Adams and little else. Allison could be very good and yes he was doing well before he got injured last season but he still has not proven himself.

He could develop into a solid #2 man or he could fizzle out. Its not as if you are looking at the Packers receiving group of Adams, Kumerow, Valdez Scantling, St Brown, and Moore plus whoever else they have and you think man that's not a strong group after Adams and then you go "oh crap, I forgot about Allison. that changes everything." It may not be quite as bad but its still not really good.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I agree. Our receiving core is very weak beyond Adams. Everybody else could “potentially” be good. I think it was a mistake not to target one of the top receivers in the draft.

I read somewhere that we might be interested in Michael Crabtree. I hope we sign him.


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5 years ago
The fact of the matter is....we really don't know how good, or how bad, this group of receivers is going to be under a LaFleur offense.

Adams is a stud in any system, and Allison, if healthy, is at least sound. Perhaps VS, St.Brown, et al, will thrive under a new system. The play design (which I believe is more quick routes vs. read and react) will help them accentuate their physical skills which, by most evaluations, are excellent.

Further, they should enjoy the confidence that they know the new system as well as their quarterbacks.

Can our staff coach em up? We shall see.
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Cheesey
5 years ago

I agree. Our receiving core is very weak beyond Adams. Everybody else could “potentially” be good. I think it was a mistake not to target one of the top receivers in the draft.

I read somewhere that we might be interested in Michael Crabtree. I hope we sign him.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



Crabtree is 31. I don’t see the Packers using a roster spot in a guy that old that really hasn’t done much the last several years.
If they were going to do that, Jordy Nelson would be a better choice.
The team is trying to go younger, and taking an old guy that would have to learn the system just doesn’t seem like the way they would go now.
JMO of course. I sure don’t have any inside info.
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TheKanataThrilla
5 years ago

Crabtree is 31. I don’t see the Packers using a roster spot in a guy that old that really hasn’t done much the last several years.
If they were going to do that, Jordy Nelson would be a better choice.
The team is trying to go younger, and taking an old guy that would have to learn the system just doesn’t seem like the way they would go now.
JMO of course. I sure don’t have any inside info.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I would see how training camp and pre-season goes. Let's get these guys as much reps as possible if there is still an issue then we look at somebody else. I am not sure why that somebody would be Crabtree. I agree with you. I'd rather just see if Jordy would come out of retirement before signing a guy who doesn't know our system. Then again with LaFleur will the system under a new HC make a Jordy return less "seemless".
Cheesey
5 years ago
I really think we have the guys at WR to be just fine.
The guys that were rookies last year have had time now to be much more comfortable in knowing what to do.
And Allison will take a bigger role now.
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nerdmann
5 years ago
My money's on Jmon. 👍

I like Allison and Kumerow as solid, experienced veterans. High floor, not a nigh ceiling. These younger guys have a higher ceiling, but are unproven and have lower floors.

Don't forget Trevor Davis either. If he's out there working on route running, he could make this team. The Packers love speed. And the dude can play ST like crazy.
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go.pack.go.
5 years ago

I would see how training camp and pre-season goes. Let's get these guys as much reps as possible if there is still an issue then we look at somebody else. I am not sure why that somebody would be Crabtree. I agree with you. I'd rather just see if Jordy would come out of retirement before signing a guy who doesn't know our system. Then again with LaFleur will the system under a new HC make a Jordy return less "seemless".

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Jordy does not know our system either.
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