DarkaneRules
16 years ago
Okay I would still take this guy. I am going to say something very immature here, but that is okay, seeing as though I don't have kids and am only 24.

It is only weed! Cut the man some slack. The world's best swimmer also loves the grass.

... yeah umm that is why I am not a GM of a pro football team 😉
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longtimefan
16 years ago

Okay I would still take this guy. I am going to say something very immature here, but that is okay, seeing as though I don't have kids and am only 24.

It is only weed! Cut the man some slack. The world's best swimmer also loves the grass.

... yeah umm that is why I am not a GM of a pro football team ;)

"DarkaneRules" wrote:




Why is it so hard for people to get this


he smoked pot ( if that was the drug) before the biggest test of his life. it could have been pain pills, or alcohol it doesnt matter

Stay clean to show teams you care about how you are treating this day they are giving you, you already failed that test once be smart and dont fuck it up 2 times

it was stupid, immature, selfish and shows me he doesnt give a shit about testing, he thinks he is better then anyone else..

that is if it is piot..

Now if it steriods, well he is even more of an idiot
16 years ago
That.... or next year half of the 1st round prospects are going to test positive for marijuana. :lol: Then it becomes less of an issue.
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longtimefan
16 years ago
Maybe this will make it more clear?


clear enough? 

Its not the fact that he smokes weed. Its that he did it while in preparation for a very important day in his life, one in which he knew he would be tested. Its a dumb move in which he may pay for financially.



I have absolutely nothing wrong with smoking weed. I dont care if he does it even - its the fact that he did it at this point in time. Just kinda dumb if you ask me.

DarkaneRules
16 years ago
Yeah its very dumb, but then again, NFL players do dumb things all the time. Packers weren't going to take Raji I don't think anyway, so this doesn't make a difference for us. I heard Raji the other day on the radio sounding a little less than enthused at the idea of being a nose tackle in the NFL. Oh well...
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16 years ago
Really? His combine interview he said he would be happy to play NT for the Packers. Of course, he could have been baked out of his gourd at the time but... :lol:
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DarkaneRules
16 years ago
Uhh yeah on the combine you do anything for that check...on the radio... the truth comes out 😉 hehe
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porky88
16 years ago

I want a player that is going to use his effing brain before the biggest test of his life..

You dont care if he doesnt use his brain as long as he can tackle and beat up a center

:thumbleft: who cares how much common sense he has :thumbright:

"pack93z" wrote:



That's pretty much it. If he can do his job on Sunday's and mature and I would probably make that decision after I talked to him, then yeah that's what it comes down too.

Remember, Randy Moss was passed on for several teams because of his stupid mistakes. The guy was a lock from the start to make big money in the pros and all he did was mess around. Tennessee took Kevin Dyson instead of him and Dallas passed on him as did the Packers. Worked out well for Minneosta. Two NFC Title Game appearances.

"porky88" wrote:



A couple two word analogy's..

Cletidus Hunt

Joe Johnson

Ricky Williams

No Thanks.

A two time positive test guy.. it isn't one mistake, a series of mistakes.. you can state all the play or potential you want, if the guy is a smoker before he has the money, most times he will be a smoker post riches.

Moss was using the entire time he was in MN, he just had enough money to skirt the program. IMO.

BTW... I don't think he fits Ted's Packer People mantra. :pottytrain2:

"longtimefan" wrote:



You can throw examples out for just about every single scenario there is in the NFL. Russel Maryland was a bust, Warren Sapp was pretty good and people passed on him because they didn't like his attitude.

It isn't about what some other player did in the past. It's about B.J. Raji. If he can't help the team, then he's not worth taking. If he can and I think he can, he's worth taking.

Of course it depends on what's on the board, but I'm not taking Raji off the board because GB could move down and if he's there at No. 21, he's awful tempting.

Would I take him at No. 9? Yeah, but it depends on what's all out there.

For the record, the last I checked, Ricky Williams was a damn good back in the NFL for several years. He admitted to cheating the program on several occasions as well.

Players are cheating right now too. Johnny Jolly probably isn't "Packer People" either, but he's on the team. My point is you can't take a guy and toss him off the board because of this report. GB needs to talk to him and then come to a conclusion.
longtimefan
16 years ago
At some point in time GM and teams have to say FUCK YOU to players that do not care


Players now have this in their heads...

A TEAM will still draft me, or still sign me
PackerTraxx
16 years ago

Really? His combine interview he said he would be happy to play NT for the Packers. Of course, he could have been baked out of his gourd at the time but... :lol:

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



I think his response was "Yaah man, I love to be...like... a nose tackle for... yaah... the Green Bay Packers...hey dude...you got anything to eat in this pad...I'm like...starving".
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