porky88
15 years ago
If it was weed and he owns up to it then I don't see this as that big of a deal. I'm sure there are currently Packer players on the roster that do weed. I'm sure some starting caliber players. Look at the Johnny Jolly incident. If he didn't get caught, we'd be talking about how great Jolly is. Jolly is on the team and what he did is probably more serious than Raji puffing on some marijuana.

As far as his brains goes. Intelligence is not something football players have always been. There are a lot of dumb football players. Some guys can't even speak a sentence is sounds like. Did you ever hear Chris Johnson of Tennessee speak? Probably coasted to success because of his athletics. Nothing wrong with that, but he's not a good interview from what I heard.

I don't care if Raji is a 4.0 or if he's dumb. I care if he's football smart on the field. If he is, I consider him. If he's not, I don't. That's what it comes down too.

Now I still didn't hear what Raji did. If we're talking heroin or something more hard, then I take him off the board.
longtimefan
15 years ago
Lets turn it around

you know you have a job interview coming up for the best job you could ever have..you smoke little sticky icky..nothing big a few puffs..

you get interview and get the job, then you have to pass a drug test..

Are you stupid for smoking when you did?

Again it isnt that its POT, it could have bene a pain killer or alcohol or what have you..its the simple fact he did something wrong right before the combines

He should have been CLEAN from the get go, plain and simple
porky88
15 years ago
There is a different standard in the job I'd be going for and the job B.J. Raji is going for. Raji is looking to be a football player. Only a select few individuals out there can play in the NFL. It's a tough thing to do.

The job I would be applying for is probably something several people could do and be taught to do. I certainly don't have the body to play nose tackle. Not at 175, but I'd more than willing to try 🙂
longtimefan
15 years ago
I want a player that is going to use his effing brain before the biggest test of his life..

You dont care if he doesnt use his brain as long as he can tackle and beat up a center

:thumbleft: who cares how much common sense he has :thumbright:
porky88
15 years ago

I want a player that is going to use his effing brain before the biggest test of his life..

You dont care if he doesnt use his brain as long as he can tackle and beat up a center

:thumbleft: who cares how much common sense he has :thumbright:

"longtimefan" wrote:



That's pretty much it. If he can do his job on Sunday's and mature and I would probably make that decision after I talked to him, then yeah that's what it comes down too.

Remember, Randy Moss was passed on for several teams because of his stupid mistakes. The guy was a lock from the start to make big money in the pros and all he did was mess around. Tennessee took Kevin Dyson instead of him and Dallas passed on him as did the Packers. Worked out well for Minneosta. Two NFC Title Game appearances.
longtimefan
15 years ago
I'd like to know what the team shrinks have to say about him after they interviewed him
15 years ago
Add two more to this:

Boston College DT BJ Raji, Illinois CB Vontae Davis & Florida WR Percy Harvin tested positive for marijuana at the combine, according to various sources, including one NFL team.


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Pack93z
15 years ago

I want a player that is going to use his effing brain before the biggest test of his life..

You dont care if he doesnt use his brain as long as he can tackle and beat up a center

:thumbleft: who cares how much common sense he has :thumbright:

"porky88" wrote:



That's pretty much it. If he can do his job on Sunday's and mature and I would probably make that decision after I talked to him, then yeah that's what it comes down too.

Remember, Randy Moss was passed on for several teams because of his stupid mistakes. The guy was a lock from the start to make big money in the pros and all he did was mess around. Tennessee took Kevin Dyson instead of him and Dallas passed on him as did the Packers. Worked out well for Minneosta. Two NFC Title Game appearances.

"longtimefan" wrote:



A couple two word analogy's..

Cletidus Hunt

Joe Johnson

Ricky Williams

No Thanks.

A two time positive test guy.. it isn't one mistake, a series of mistakes.. you can state all the play or potential you want, if the guy is a smoker before he has the money, most times he will be a smoker post riches.

Moss was using the entire time he was in MN, he just had enough money to skirt the program. IMO.

BTW... I don't think he fits Ted's Packer People mantra. :pottytrain2:
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
longtimefan
15 years ago
ASSuming that it is pot, people are willing to spend MILLIONS on this kid in the hopes you wont do it again?

Can you draw up a contract stating that if he gets suspended, he will lose X amount of dollars?
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Can you draw up a contract stating that if he gets suspended, he will lose X amount of dollars?

"longtimefan" wrote:



To my knowledge, yes. It can't be worded in that fashion, but you have the contract say if you play 14 games you get X amount of bucks. If you play 10 games you get X amount of bucks.
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