What the Packers get for Cutler· Page 3

Dulak
Veteran Member

16 years ago

Yeah. People who fail drug tests aren't exactly "Packer people."

Now if his arm was about to fall off, we'd draft him with a 1st round pick.

"zombieslayer" wrote:

LoL +1

Orakpo has some knee issues ... is this a sign?

warhawk
Senior Member Topic Starter

16 years ago

#22

Please, the points system is out dated and everyone knows this already.

I will agree the 12 and 18 is too much for JUST the 9. It would take the 9 and 41 and that would be pushing it.

The more likely switch would be their 18 and 48 for our 9.

"SlickVision" wrote:

It's going to be dicey for Denver. It's obvioulsy going to take both firsts if they go as low as Cleveland or even Oakland. Then again, if they hold out until our pick they pretty much have to deal with us or Sanchez won't make it past the 49'rs.

It looks to me like we will have them by the short hairs if it does happen to get to us so that has to be considered. I think 12 and 48 for the 9 would be looking pretty good to them if it gets to that point. It also looks a heck of a lot better than both firsts so it's a question of how late they hold out.

I don't think Freeman is the guy for Denver or the Jets in their offenses so we have them sitting back there maybe trying to leap Denver as well.

"The train is leaving the station."

Dulak
Veteran Member

16 years ago

#23

Do the bears have any good receivers? Sounds like the GM of the bears is really excited about the trade.

dhazer
Veteran Member

16 years ago

#24

Well to be honest i don't see Denver worry about drafting a qb this year. They did get Orton. Next year you will have the better qb class coming out, so why does everyone think Denver will push to go after a qb (this they made sure they got a qb back in the trade)

But it is fun to fantasize about.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Dulak
Veteran Member

16 years ago

#25

Now Ted Thompson and MM have something to worry about - a better bears team. Hopefully this will motivate Ted Thompson to pick some good players in the draft and sign needed players in the FA.

Cant wait for the pack/bears games this year

MassPackersFan
Member

16 years ago

#26

Yeah, how big is that season opener now, on national tv???

I could quite possibly be even more jacked up and nervous than last year, and I thought I was going to have a heart attack then.

Mckennj3
Registered

16 years ago

#27

This is definately bringing back the intensity of the ol pack vs da bears rivalry

We are born naked, wet and hungry. Then things get worse.

warhawk
Senior Member Topic Starter

16 years ago

#28

"dhazer" wrote:

They got Kyle Orton as insurance in the event they don't get the QB they want in the draft. If they can get Sanchez they will do it. He can run that offense and if the opportunity presents itself you can bet they will jump.

They didn't make this deal because they are going to be happy with Orton at QB. They made it because they got the best deal they could get for Cutler vs. waiting until draft day and now that they know what they have they know what they can give.

Orton aint the steak in this deal. He's the potato and your not going to sit on a guy like that HOPING you MIGHT get in a position to get a QB down the road.

"The train is leaving the station."

DakotaT
Select Member

16 years ago

#29

"dhazer" wrote:

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with you on this one. :icon_smile:

Denver is in total rebuild the defense mode and Orton and Simms are serviceable. I would not be surprised if Denver took a rb in round one.

I think our trading partner is the Jets. We already have their third, we might as well take their second too.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

16 years ago

#30

Orton is NOT the future of Denver. They'd be wise to draft a QB this year, let him ride the pine and learn for a year then unleash the competition. It also gives them a chance to upgrade their defense.

This is not a make it or break it year for the Bronco's. If you feel theres a good QB ready to be had while you have the ammo to move up and get him, you do it. It's common sense.

It makes sense for the Bronco's to draft a QB this year and ride the Orton train for the season. Whether they draft a QB or not, I see Orton starting all games for the Bronco's unless injured.

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dfosterf (10h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

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