Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
Something that just occurred to me: It's going to be really interesting to see the dynamic that develops as Aaron Rodgers answers to a coach who's less than five years older than he is.

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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago





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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
Looks like I'm not the only one who's intrigued by the rather narrow age disparity between LaFleur and Rodgers:



And it's nice to hear him referred to in superlatives like "one of the smartest."


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nerdmann
6 years ago





Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Sounds like they felt strongly about him, so that makes me feel better about the choice. They identified him as their guy, and made their move. Now let's see what he's got.
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6 years ago

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beast
6 years ago

I don't think I had Matt LaFleur on my radar.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 

Yeah, who would of ever had that guy on their radar? 👅 👍

I still don't know how he'll do (which makes me nervous) but I was leaning his way, after my original (crazy) idea of a HC Dave Toub, OC Kingsbury and DC Pettine fell apart.

I think you need to add Matt LaFleur near the top of that list, beast near the middle and Zero2Cool somewhere in there too 😂 🤣

Originally Posted by: beast 


Sorry, Zero2Cool, once again they didn't want either of us.

I'm thinking the Titans OC?

The 49ers don't currently have an OC, as their head coach Kyle Shanahan is their OC... but if they were to have one... who would it be? Maybe Matt LaFleur who is the current Titans OC...

Why do I say that... because with the exception of 2014, Matt LaFleur has been on the same teams as Kyle Shanahan from 2008 to 2016 ... which include time together with the Texans, Redskins and Falcons. LaFleur was the QB coach with the Redskins and Falcons.

So what happened in 2014? Browns head coach Mike Pettine hired Kyle Shanahan to be OC, and someone hired Dowell Loggains as QB coach (while LaFleur was QB coach with Notre Dame). According to the reports, Browns ownership was trying to force rookie QB Johnny Football on the field and Shanahan tried to stop it as much as possible... Ownership finally won and got Johnny Football on the field and Shanahan (rightfully) left that ownership was doing the coaching. Which is why I wonder might be one reason Pettine never wants to be head coach again, because as he said, head coach is 90% management and he wants 90% to be about football. Shanahan/LaFleur would join back up with the Falcons and Loggains went on to coach under John Fox with the Bears.


But in 2017 both Shanahan and Sean McVay (who also worked with them with the Redskins) both got head coaching jobs... and LaFleur ended up as OC with the Rams (maybe because Shanahan wanted to be his own OC)... but McVay called the plays... and in 2018 LaFleur left for the Titans so that he could be top offensive guy and call the plays. The Titans offense has struggled, but I think that could be partly their lack of players talent... MM's 49ers offense also struggled.

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But I think some are focusing way too much on his one year with the Titans... as that was only one year... he was also under Sean McVay that turned the Rams around and Kyle Shanahan that helped maximum the Falcons to the Super Bowl, just in the last three years.

Not saying he's going to be like those because this is different opportunity and different team... though I'm expecting to see a commitment to the run game as all three of the above come from the (Mike) Shanahan/Kubiak system is partly about using zone runs (normally with an athletic, physical RB) to use the run to set up the pass.

So I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers invested into a RB as all their teams have always grabbed a RB that could be BOTH athletic and physical run someone over.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago
Another thing to make us think Mike Pettine stays. I was hoping we'd hire a good defensive coordinator. oh well


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TheKanataThrilla
6 years ago
Not sure if money was an issues, but McDaniels was probably asking for a bunch of cash. He was making $4M or so being the OC. How much would he have wanted to be a HC?
Zero2Cool
6 years ago
Good read, click to read more. I didn't bring them all over.






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6 years ago

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