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5 years ago
ZTC, Weren’t you going to comment on the fact that a new coach would provide everybody with a clean slate and a fresh start?
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nerdmann
5 years ago

I have reread and your still talking out of your ass... Bennett wouldn't need a rebuild and every other coach would is complete biased talking. Because your saying Bennett would run a different scheme but not have to rebuild.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Again, I can type more slowly if you prefer.



You're just in love with the old school west coast offense and think Bennett will run your system... That cool and fine.

But that doesn't mean Bennett is freaking perfect and there is McCarthy conspiracies to hold him back, that's just ridiculous. Also the fact that no body is really running the old school west coast system as it has evolved into new school west coast system... this would be like Al Davis trying to run 80s football in the 2000s.



Again, not what I'm saying. As I've stated repeatedly, I am against letting Aaron run the franchise. And THAT is the theory here. Not that Edgar will have or not have his own system.

I do like the old school WCO, but then rules have changed even more to benefit the passing game. So you have to account for that, it is a natural response to the changing agenda of the NFL.


Weather to retool or not, if you haven't noticed Gute started the process last year and the retooling and the coaches/Rodgers bad reaction to working with the new tools is what lead to the shity offense, but that should have been expected when running a chemistry system that is based in second/third reactions and working with a whole lot of new guys who are still learning the first reaction.... also getting rid of the guy with the best QB chemistry.



Most teams now are running "smaller, quicker" WRs. Are we going to wait two years to turn our roster over from these tall fast guys and the one smaller guy we have that isn't really quick anymore in Randall Cobb?

I mean, I'd be fine with it, in the long term best interest of THE TEAM. However I suspect that what is being considered by management is the short term best interest of the QB.
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beast
5 years ago

Again, I can type more slowly if you prefer.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Again, you have been typing the same crap without a since bit of prove... just because you post it again doesn't make it any more true.

I am against letting Aaron run the franchise. And THAT is the theory here.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

This is a straw man arugment fallacy... you're creating a false theory that.is in your head to knock down that doesn't seem to exist outside of your conspiracy rants.

Not that Edgar will have or not have his own system.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

This is proof you are talking in circles as you have made to completely opposite statements. Here is the other,

He has an offensive scheme that would tie the franchise together.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 





Most teams now are running "smaller, quicker" WRs. Are we going to wait two years to turn our roster over from these tall fast guys ...?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

The answer is no, no matter who is coaching.... the rules aren't different for Bennett...
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nerdmann
5 years ago

Again, you have been typing the same crap without a since bit of prove... just because you post it again doesn't make it any more true.

This is a straw man arugment fallacy... you're creating a false theory that.is in your head to knock down that doesn't seem to exist outside of your conspiracy rants.

This is proof you are talking in circles as you have made to completely opposite statements. Here is the other,



The answer is no, no matter who is coaching.... the rules aren't different for Bennett...

Originally Posted by: beast 



Agreed. So why would they being someone in who would want to turn the roster over to fit their sustem?

Anyway it's boring to discuss things with people who go out of their way to misrepresent what you are saying, because they can't disprove it.

Why bother posting all the postgame shows, radio shows, podcasts where this thing with Aaron is discussed? Might as well converse with Ufda 🤣
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KRK
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5 years ago
I am kind of liking the fact that we are not finding out about these interviews until after the fact. It adds to the intrigue because you don't who they might talking to.
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Rockmolder
5 years ago
Some more far stretched coaching candidates who haven't been mentioned to go with Edgar Bennett. I'm on the fence about all of these, but reading some articles left and right, they could be in consideration as head coaches for quite a few teams.

Don Martindale (DC Baltimore, 55): He's doing some amazing stuff with that Ravens defense this year, but also had the worst defense in the entire season in 2010 in Denver.

Gus Bradley (DC LAC, 52): Helped build that Seahawks defense from 2009 - 2012, before putting up an abysmal 14-48 record with Jacksonville as a head coach, only to come back and work wonders on that Chargers defense.

Matt LaFleur (OC Tennessee, 39): Was the OC for the Rams under McVay. Left for Tennessee this year so he could start calling the plays (McVay called plays for the Rams). Journalists keep raving about his "sharp mind", but that hasn't translated to great results or improvement for the Titans so far.

Jim Schwartz (DC Philadelphia, 52): I'm warming up to the idea of Schwartz. He did amazing things in Tennessee, inhereted a 0-16 Lions team which he got the play-offs at 10-6 just 3 years later and turned around that Eagles defense from one of the worst to a pretty respectable unit in just one year. The only big problem is that he runs a 4-3 and most likely wants the kind of control over the defense that keeping Pettine around won't be an option.
Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago

It would seem that Murphy and Gutekunst are indeed leaving no stone unturned.
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KRK
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5 years ago
Perhaps I’m looking at this the wrong way, but I think we want attract a top offensive mind from somewhere. We already have an excellent defensive guy, and I wish he wanted to be head coach.

Otherwise, we have to start with a whole new defensive scheme, Then we set everybody back because many of you are telling us that younger people can’t play the first year of a system. So we’d be learning new systems on both sides of the ball...which means another wasted year.

Regardless, you’re far likely to get a really good offensive guy if he is offered the head-coaching position. So why are we talking about Caldwell, Gus Bradley, Jim Schwarz and special teams guys?

Yeesh
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Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago
I couldn't tell you, KRK, but Jon Meerdink and Gary Zilavy over at The Power Sweep  seem to think that Caldwell may well be the leading candidate for the position.
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yooperfan
5 years ago
This whole coaching search thing has me on edge which is something I didn't expect at the time McCarthy was fired.
The more I read about this, the more on edge I get.
Having been through all the coaching changes during the 70's and 80's and knowing how badly that all went, I'm not feeling very good about the coaching upheaval that we are looking in the face.
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